Potential Immigrants

[AuroraSaab]

Well it's certainly an uninspiring political landscape in the UK at the moment. The Lib Dems also continue to beclown themselves on women's rights. At this rate I predict the turn out for the next GE for mainstream parties will be very low.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Well it's certainly an uninspiring political landscape in the UK at the moment. The Lib Dems also continue to beclown themselves on women's rights. At this rate I predict the turn out for the next GE for mainstream parties will be very low.

Luckily for the LibDems trans/women's rights is not an issue that will influence many people's voting intentions.

 

[Psamathe]

I think Reform and similar are often home for protest votes when people are tired of the mainstream parties. I don't think people necessarily vote for things in an election that they might ostensibly voice limited passive support for. Not in large enough numbers under FPTP anyway.

I would agree. Easy to express dissatisfaction by telling a polling company something but very different from putting an "X" next to the unproven candidate with rather extreme policies many of which you don't actually agree with. I don't think Council elections necessarily provide a good indication given how much of Council "policy" is just in deliverying routine services you don't actually think about much as they just happen.

Plus we are a long way from any likely election. Many of Labour's failings are not too hard for them to sort out if they can get some find some sanity and some better people in post (which they have not done so far).

In some ways a but like the French Presidential elections almost always take 2 rounds. 1st vote and people tend to vote more radical and when the result is announced and some extreme candidate gets into round to the electoraterecognise what a close-call they almost created and sanity returnsfor the 2nd round.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Luckily for the LibDems trans/women's rights is not an issue that will influence many people's voting intentions.

I disagree. I suppose die hard Lib Dems will overlook it but it's a position that will alienate some floating voters. Moot point really as the chances of the Lib Dems forming the next government is zero.

 

[Pblakeney]

I disagree. I suppose die hard Lib Dems will overlook it but it's a position that will alienate some floating voters. Moot point really as the chances of the Lib Dems forming the next government is zero.

They do have a history there.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I disagree. I suppose die hard Lib Dems will overlook it but it's a position that will alienate some floating voters. Moot point really as the chances of the Lib Dems forming the next government is zero.

https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/our-work/voting-intention/


2%. Other than a small group of people on each side of the debate it is not seen as an important issue to many. The size and number of threads on niche internet forums like this are not a measure of the perceived importance of a topic to the public.

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's never going to be above immigration or housing in people's list of pressing issues but it will be an issue for some and you would think the Greens and Lib Dems would at least want to stop looking like unscientific authoritarians in how they deal with it.

It's certainly true that a niche forum like this isn't necessarily an accurate barometer of public opinion as the members aren't very diverse. For example, you guys keep saying immigration and channel boats isn't a big deal but your link shows it to be far and away the biggest issue.

Is your 'only 2% think it's a big issue' based on the article on the link website? That was from 2022. A lot has changed since then and people are more aware.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It's never going to be above immigration or housing in people's list of pressing issues but it will be an issue for some and you would think the Greens and Lib Dems would at least want to stop looking like unscientific authoritarians in how they deal with it.

It's certainly true that a niche forum like this isn't necessarily an accurate barometer of public opinion as the members aren't very diverse. For example, you guys keep saying immigration and channel boats isn't a big deal but your link shows it to be far and away the biggest issue.

2%. Just about the smallest measurable issue.

I am a guy but even I can see it is a big deal to many. It could lead to the one trick pony Farage getting a larger vote than he deserves.

 

[AuroraSaab]

The size and number of threads on niche internet forums like this are not a measure of the perceived importance of a topic to the public.

You might want to check out Mumsnet. It's likely more representative of women's views on the issue than this tiny niche forum which consists of around 10 men and one woman (me).

When parties continually make themselves look foolish on an issue, other parties will capitalise. That's always the way. Probably best not to give them an open goal.

 

[Rusty Nails]

You might want to check out Mumsnet. It's likely more representative of women's views on the issue than this tiny niche forum which consists of around 10 men and one woman (me).

When parties continually make themselves look foolish on an issue, other parties will capitalise. That's always the way. Probably best not to give them an open goal.

Perhaps the women contributers to the subject on Mumsnet make up the 2% of the electorate who think it is a priority. The GE will not be decided by Mumsnet.

 

[BoldonLad]

Perhaps the women contributers to the subject on Mumsnet make up the 2% of the electorate who think it is a priority. The GE will not be decided by Mumsnet.

I think you are correct.

I also think it will be decided on immigration, as things. stand at present. Most people on here may not like that (including me) but, I fear it is so.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Perhaps the women contributers to the subject on Mumsnet make up the 2% of the electorate who think it is a priority. The GE will not be decided by Mumsnet.

Or perhaps like most people they will take it into account with other issues to form an overall decision on where to put their X. If you're not a natural Green or Lib Dem voter it might be a deciding factor. Mumsnet has 8 million active users apparently, and 9 million unique visitors a month, so I think it might be more influential than you think.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Or perhaps like most people they will take it into account with other issues to form an overall decision on where to put their X. If you're not a natural Green or Lib Dem voter it might be a deciding factor. Mumsnet has 8 million active users apparently, and 9 million unique visitors a month, so I think it might be more influential than you think.

It might be...or it might not. Time will tell.

The analysis of voting intentions doesn't make it look that likely that it will have a significant effect, especially in a FPTP system.

 

[Bromptonaut]

You might want to check out Mumsnet. It's likely more representative of women's views on the issue than this tiny niche forum which consists of around 10 men and one woman (me).

When parties continually make themselves look foolish on an issue, other parties will capitalise. That's always the way. Probably best not to give them an open goal.

Mumsnet is a nest of TERFs.

They gather there.

 

[CXRAndy]

Mumsnet is a nest of TERFs.

They gather there.

Obviously, they are women, who know what a woman is.

Sound like a sensible bunch 👌