Prince Andrew

[briantrumpet]

Surely it's time to change the thread title...

Andrew Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

Maybe Matt Goodwin is right about foreigners.

 

[All uphill]

Parents of certain generations were wont to say that. It's a basic Conservative principle.

Life's not fair, get over it = Conservative

Life's not fair, let's do something about it, is an alternative

 

[Psamathe]

Also, for not very smart people who can't appreciate complexities it allows them to rate themselves using a single number (net worth) so comparing against others make "my number is bigger than yours".

Completely fails to appreciate that life is about what you achieve and that somebody on struggling on minimum wage can achieve a lot more than somebody who inherits vast wealth ...

I'm not even sure that's wholly true. For some people it's enough just to survive the shitty hand they've been dealt (though I suppose for them that might be an achievement). As my mother said frequently, "Life's not fair".

I see them as the same. "Achieve" is about doing the best you can in your situation. Thus many mega-wealthy achieve very little (when you have multiple $ billions, putting a $ few thousand to some else's startup idea is no "achievement"). Whereas on minimum pay zero hours contract working 3 jobs, building up a local kids football team is a real achievement that person should be proud of.

Or to bring it back to non-royalty, massive unearned wealth and then shooting a few innocent birds at a social "shooting weekend" is no "achievement".

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I see them as the same. "Achieve" is about doing the best you can in your situation. Thus many mega-wealthy achieve very little (when you have multiple $ billions, putting a $ few thousand to some else's startup idea is no "achievement"). Whereas on minimum pay zero hours contract working 3 jobs, building up a local kids football team is a real achievement that person should be proud of.

Or to bring it back to non-royalty, massive unearned wealth and then shooting a few innocent birds at a social "shooting weekend" is no "achievement".

That's the bit people seem to miss

I know people who run charities pretty much single-handedly

but then some millionaire is spread all over the local paper because he has give 0.01% of his wealth to a local charity

so rich people get it
but the ones that make the most noise just seem t think they are wonderful for lobbing a tiny fraction of the wealth at a local charity