Pblakeney
Shaman
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want a bit of comfort and refinement when driving though (although I agree that Beemer looks hideous).
I’ve actually driven a modern Renault Traffic when I brought my daughter back from Uni and in many ways it was nicer to drive than my ageing Qashqai but I don’t think I’d want it as my daily vehicle.
I still maintain that most BMWs are bought for the badge.
Not only that but most purchasers can’t drive them properly anyway.