Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

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TailWindHome

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That's quite an achievement, to be fair.

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ebikeerwidnes

Über Member
Interesting news from the Gorton and Denton By-Election:

An election observer group has claimed its team witnessed "concerningly high levels" of family voting in the Gorton and Denton by-election.

Family voting is an offence that can be committed when a person casting a ballot in an election is joined in a polling booth by someone who intends to influence how they vote.

Electoral law protects the secrecy of ballots in polling stations.

Democracy Volunteers said they attended 22 of the 45 polling stations in the constituency, spending 30 to 45 minutes in each.
The group said it had seen family voting in 15 of the 22 polling stations observed.
The group said they observed a sample of 545 individuals casting their vote and saw 32 cases of family voting in total, including nine cases in one polling station.

John Ault, director of Democracy Volunteers, said: "Today we have seen concerningly high levels of family voting in Gorton and Denton.
"Based on our assessment of today's observations, we have seen the highest levels of family voting at any election in our 10-year history of observing elections in the UK.

"We rarely issue a report on the night of an election, but the data we have collected today on family voting, when compared to other recent by-elections, is extremely high.

"In the other recent Westminster parliamentary by-election in Runcorn and Helsby we saw family voting in 12% of polling stations, affecting 1% of voters.



"In Gorton and Denton, we observed family voting in 68% of polling stations, affecting 12% of those voters observed."

But funnily enough the people paid to keep an eye on these things say they didn;t see any instances of this
at all

and none were reported to them

and none were reported to the Police
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Pharaoh
But funnily enough the people paid to keep an eye on these things say they didn;t see any instances of this
at all

and none were reported to them

and none were reported to the Police

I can't work out what's going here at all. 'Democracy Volunteers' seems to be a legit outfit, though I'd not heard of them before 4am this morning.

Here's a blog post from Someone On The Internet about them, obviously also curious: https://chosen-path.org/2026/02/27/...rvations-on-the-denton-and-gorton-byelection/
 

ebikeerwidnes

Über Member
I can't work out what's going here at all. 'Democracy Volunteers' seems to be a legit outfit, though I'd not heard of them before 4am this morning.

Here's a blog post from Someone On The Internet about them, obviously also curious: https://chosen-path.org/2026/02/27/...rvations-on-the-denton-and-gorton-byelection/

That's useful.

But still the DV people saw "something" and the staff at the polling station saw nothing

Possibly a difference in what they class as a problem?
Without it being reported at the time it does sound like something that can;t be changed now

but maybe the polling station staff need to be told to intervene earlier
or maybe the DV volunteers need to be trained to report i at the time, if possible and maybe change their boundaries
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Pharaoh
Reform & Telegraph really going for the 'sectarian' accusation, which is more than a little rich given how outwardly racist Goodwin was & is. I assume that sectarianism is only OK if it's white & Christian, in which case you don't call it 'sectarianism'.

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briantrumpet

Pharaoh
Reform & Telegraph really going for the 'sectarian' accusation, which is more than a little rich given how outwardly racist Goodwin was & is. I assume that sectarianism is only OK if it's white & Christian, in which case you don't call it 'sectarianism'.

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Oh, seems like Starmer's doing it too. Guess he's still not come to terms with the fact that they are losing most votes to Greens. Must have a death wish for the party: that's not how you woo voters back (or the support of the PLP).

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the snail

Active Member
But funnily enough the people paid to keep an eye on these things say they didn;t see any instances of this
at all

and none were reported to them

and none were reported to the Police

It's much more important to get the claims out on social media immediately,so that Fagash has a new racist trope to excuse his latest failure.
 
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monkers

Shaman
When one remembers that the Green Party have been vocal regarding the proscription of PA, the arrests of placard holding pensioners, doctors & other NHS workers. When one remembers that MPs including Labour MPs have been calling on the government to stop enabling a genocidal state with military supples, air support, and training. When one remembers that the UN and others have termed Israel's response variously as initially concerning, to war crimes, to genocide and issuing international arrest warrants. When one sums these things and hears Starmer's responses, one can not be surprised that a Muslim population in Gorton & Denton do not feel represented by the Labour Party and government they voted to help instal.

It wasn't necessary for Polanski and Spencer to actively recruit Muslim people to a cause - the Labour Party had actively pushed Muslim folk towards them.

This has been a by-election with some pretty nasty words and dirty tricks employed.

We might expect Reform and Zahawi (he was on Sky News during the night) to keep repeating the word ''sectarianism'', we shouldn't expect it from Labour. Zahawi in the same breath also took the opportunity to talk about grooming gangs while trying to rubbish the Green Party.

Neither Reform or Labour are losing with any semblance of grace.
 
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Beebo

Guru
Interesting analysis on Reform.
That they may have peaked in popularity. They have a strong base but not enough support country wide to win many seats in a GE.
They will come second in lots of seats but unlikely to win enough to form a government.
 
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Psamathe

Guru
But still the DV people saw "something" and the staff at the polling station saw nothing

Possibly a difference in what they class as a problem?
Without it being reported at the time it does sound like something that can;t be changed now
As I posted above, apparently DV are not allowed to report incidents to the Polling Station staff. I can understand that as were this to be allowed they would be taking the role of "supervision" rather than monitoring.

My local polling station staff generally wouldn't notice voters holding an orgy in the room. That said I'm rural and just 2 people staffing at any time and max. a couple of voters.
 
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