Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[briantrumpet]

For a bit of perspective/copium:

 

[TailWindHome]

Hang on, you like the Sky data when it brings you comfort on the Reform %age, but dismiss it when it's translated to seats.

 

[briantrumpet]

Looks like a total failure of Reform in London.

 

[BoldonLad]

But the switch to Reform run councils could give other parties plenty of stuff to use as in "They did this to your Council/Rates ... would you want this done to the entire country?". ie a track record of local Council disasters.

You may be correct, but, why did than line not “run” for the previous Labour or Conservative run councils?

 

[briantrumpet]

Hang on, you like the Sky data when it brings you comfort on the Reform %age, but dismiss it when it's translated to seats.

The two things are not mutually exclusive (or necessarily linked).

Here's Gemini's summary:

The Verdict: Local elections are a useful directional compass, but a poor map. They can tell you which way the wind is blowing, but they rarely predict the exact seat count or the final margin of victory accurately.

 

[TailWindHome]

Here's Gemini's summary:

Nope. I'm out.

 

[Pross]

Now Reform are no longer just a tiny, irrelevant Party maybe they’ll start getting their fair share of media coverage.

 

[Pross]

You may be correct, but, why did than line not “run” for the previous Labour or Conservative run councils?

Because there was evidence of what they would do at national level already?

 

[Pross]

For a bit of perspective/copium:

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“Exactly what I predicted except the bits that were different”. Is that the same pundit that inspired Rick’s flounce from BR?

 

[secretsqirrel]

Wait, what, I thought nobody voted for Labour…

All I am seeing and reading is the total demise of the Labour Party, then I look at the numbers and see Labour still control more councils than anybody else.

Oh yes, how the mighty fall, when they have further to fall.

 

[briantrumpet]

Well, since you mention it, Allison...

 

[Pross]

I wonder why Reform are less popular in Scotland? Is immigration seen as less of an issue? Are they seen as anti-Scottish? Is it just that Reform are the protest vote option in England whereas the SNP play that role in Scotland (Plaid doing similar to a lesser extent in Wales)? I guess Scotland were much more pro-EU too.

 

[First Aspect]

I wonder why Reform are less popular in Scotland? Is immigration seen as less of an issue? Are they seen as anti-Scottish? Is it just that Reform are the protest vote option in England whereas the SNP play that role in Scotland (Plaid doing similar to a lesser extent in Wales)? I guess Scotland were much more pro-EU too.

All of the above. Scotland seems less anti immigration because there isn't much of it. Reform are largely associated with a very Anglocentric person. But they still did quite well.

 

[Dorset Boy]

I wonder why Reform are less popular in Scotland? Is immigration seen as less of an issue? Are they seen as anti-Scottish? Is it just that Reform are the protest vote option in England whereas the SNP play that role in Scotland (Plaid doing similar to a lesser extent in Wales)? I guess Scotland were much more pro-EU too.

Reform are a very English focussed party, so the average Scot probably detests them as a result

 

[Pblakeney]

I wonder why Reform are less popular in Scotland? Is immigration seen as less of an issue? Are they seen as anti-Scottish? Is it just that Reform are the protest vote option in England whereas the SNP play that role in Scotland (Plaid doing similar to a lesser extent in Wales)? I guess Scotland were much more pro-EU too.

I imagine the bit in bold along with who Reform are played a large part.