Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[briantrumpet]

Also it wasn't the third party that published it. It was the next party along...

I think if Mr H had a judge's wig on, looked at the the careless journalist over the top of his half-moon glasses, and said, in a sombre voice "Do you really claim you had a right to privacy, as a journalist, having carelessly sent what appears to be an offer to help cover up a alleged crime of national interest, to some other person in your list of contacts?", the journalist would hastily withdraw his claim, quaking in his boots.

 

[Pross]

Also it wasn't the third party that published it. It was the next party along...

Who was sent it by the third party.

 

[presta]

90 years ago today, exactly one week before the repeat event at Cable Street:

 

[Rusty Nails]

In the 1930s an uncle of mine made the move from being a radical left-wing trade unionist to leader of the Blackshirt movement in South Wales.

I cannot remember meeting him, but my family, for obvious reasons, did not dwell much on our family links.

 

[Psamathe]

Don't know why whoever pays for this polling bothers during Party Conference season

On Thursday two MRP polls showed that, with Burnham as Labour leader, Reform UK has suffered a huge setback. More in Common has another out this morning. “More in Common’s latest MRP projects Labour on 250 seats and Reform on 147, a sharp reversal from July’s projection of Reform 293 and Labour 110,” it says.
(from https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-6ab8ab578f08e457778154fb#liveblog-navigation)

A bit daft given it's the Labour Party Conference and this Burnham getting lots of headline space and airtime to present stuff he feels will be positive. Information and agendas being carefully managed by Party officials to maximise positive impact.

So does anybody think the polling carried out now is actually really going to stand-up even over the next few months eg when we have a budget that many think will mean more taxes and/or service cuts and/or not meeting increases promised (eg defence).

 

[briantrumpet]

Odd, but Farage has deleted his X post about the 'Fairford bombers' being Iranian terrorists who came over on small boats and got British passports. Wonder why?

 

[icowden]

Odd, but Farage has deleted his X post about the 'Fairford bombers' being Iranian terrorists who came over on small boats and got British passports. Wonder why?

Maybe it's due to the slight inaccuracies. He's a details man.

Apart from them not being bombers (based on the evidence found), not being Iranian, and not being Asylum seekers, he's spot on.

 

[Beebo]

Suella Braverman can’t explain what it means to be English. She’s a very strange woman.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/BeZ3VrF0b4g?si=WKbRqKPOZ1xxOEOT

 

[briantrumpet]

Suella Braverman can’t explain what it means to be English. She’s a very strange woman.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/BeZ3VrF0b4g?si=WKbRqKPOZ1xxOEOT

I do wonder if she's on the same path as Liz Truss. Her 'arguments' are rotting her brain from within.

 

[briantrumpet]

An interesting definition of both 'knife' and 'edge', as well as displaying quite a degree of optimism, in their by-election strategy.

 

[icowden]

An interesting definition of both 'knife' and 'edge', as well as displaying quite a degree of optimism, in their by-election strategy.

They seem to have very quickly gone from making sensible media appearances and suggesting sensible policy which pushed their vote share up to 16% back to doing stupid things, getting caught out with mistakes and infighting which has taken them back down to where they started.

Some of that may be people attracted back towards Labour now that Burnham is in charge of course. EC suggests that an election tomorrow would result in 2 Green MPs.

 

[briantrumpet]

They seem to have very quickly gone from making sensible media appearances and suggesting sensible policy which pushed their vote share up to 16% back to doing stupid things, getting caught out with mistakes and infighting which has taken them back down to where they started.

Some of that may be people attracted back towards Labour now that Burnham is in charge of course. EC suggests that an election tomorrow would result in 2 Green MPs.

I think the basic problem with Polanski is that his pronouncements don't come from deep conviction and long-held belief in 'the cause'. And there are disparate factions already in the Greens, plus an influx of Corbynites (particilarly those for whom Palestine is the main concern) displaced from Labour, to jockey for the limelight & influence. And with all that and the rather weird structure of the Green Party and its leader, Polanski has little chance of pulling it all together to present a deep-seated coherent philosophy. Which is all a shame, for reasons I've mentioned previously.

 

[briantrumpet]

Quite funny.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9nYWpwdEbsQ

 

[Pblakeney]

Quite funny.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9nYWpwdEbsQ

"All for one, and sod the rest!"

 

[First Aspect]

I listened to Zach P's party conference speech in full today.

It was mainly powder puff (including the notion of effectively a "double lock" on rents and the conspicuous silence on precisely how every home in Britain might reach the highest standards of insulation or how many thousands it would cost for these households to save £50 a year on heating) the pitch seems to essentially be to claim that anything they can't disagree with that Labour are doing is a result of the Greens' popularity.

Is this not just an open goal for Labour o flip it around to say thanks for approving of our policies?

Anyhow, I think this afternoon they are going to debate whether or not Stan has a right to have a baby, even though he doesn't have a womb.