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briantrumpet
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A bit of chatter about whether it's a fake, but it's looking likely it's genuine, and has been reproduced by the BBC.
Reform, and the death of the Tory Party
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A bit of chatter about whether it's a fake, but it's looking likely it's genuine, and has been reproduced by the BBC.
First Aspect
Über Member
Has this got anything to do with engineering? If not, it's irrelevant.
Pross
Well-Known Member
Yeah but he's a famous Leftie so talking leftiebollox is hardly a surprise. Oh, wait a minute...
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briantrumpet
Guru
Anyway, looking back 73 pages back to p.1 of this thread, I don't think I was a million miles off in my prediction.
First Aspect
Über Member
Perhaps. Reform's popularity is somewhat in lockstep with MAGAs fate, and the next US election is November 2028.
Ours are some 9 months later.
Too early to call whether being a xenophobic dishonest duplicitous hypocrite will still be quite as trendy by then.
Ours are some 9 months later.
Too early to call whether being a xenophobic dishonest duplicitous hypocrite will still be quite as trendy by then.
Pross
Well-Known Member
I think the only way it isn't is if the economy improves drastically in the meantime but I'm not holding my breath. What we need is a country with a vastly inferior military to invade some tiny UK dependency none of us have heard of so the Government can get a morale boosting military win shortly before the next election.
However, I would be bsolutely amazed in Reform would get a second bite of the cherry once people have seen the realities of Farage and co trying to run something. Even small Councils are beyond their capabilities.
midlandsgrimpeur
Active Member
Was reading today that Reform led Kent council will have to increase Council Tax as they have no money. They were actually convinced they would go in and find loads of easy cost cutting measures and quickly save millions!
First Aspect
Über Member
Or the US economy tanks. Both will be relative terms, but it's not out of the question that the GOP gets turfed out for high inflation, low growth and lots of nice people not having things like healthcare. Also entirely possible we might see significant civil unrest.
If the mood music is relentlessly bad over there, it's an opportunity to hammer Reform for being copycats.
4 years is also a long time for the war in Ukraine to be going on. Either we will be fully in it by then, or it will be over. Either way, the Russian links might be a further opportunity to hammer Reform.
icowden
Shaman
What - you mean with Trump busy trying to send in the National Guard to occupy cities in Democratic States?
First Aspect
Über Member
In terms of using the army on civilians, I wouldn't put it past him to go further than having reservists hang around on street corners for a week or so in peaceful cities.
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classic33
Missen
The first real test for them will be next May, given the boundary changes made this year. And one year on, those who got in this year will have to account for promises they made, that they have been unable to keep.
The tired excuse of having to work with what they were left with, won't wash with those who want action and answers within weeks.
The same has held true for every party who've rubbished the outgoing councillor, that they've replaced. They'll blame the party, not the individual(s) who made the promises they made.
the snail
Active Member
No. If anything, the tories were screwed when they chose Johnson, who proceeded to drive anyone with any common sense out of the party. They were pretty F***ed before then, but their current situation is the logical result of Johnson and his 'get brexit done' kool-aid.
Pblakeney
Über Member
The tories were F***ed from the moment when Cameron had the referendum and it didn't unite the tories.
Psamathe
Veteran
Weird thing that makes no sense to me is how they seem to have no interest in growing or broadening their base, instead just looking to exclude existing supporters - the "support this policy or get out".
And lower supporter numbers means lower income, less campaigning come election, fewer activists knocking on doors, etc.
And that looks like their deliberate plan.
Pblakeney
Über Member
They are doubling down. And down, and down, and down.......
