Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[Stevo 666]

Not really. Their stance is not to put immigrants into detention centres, allowing asylum seekers to work and therefore pay both for their own food and accommodation and pay into the economy, as well as dealing with asylum claims before people have risked their lives crossing the channel.

This is just a Reform daffodil trolling for clicks. Ironically most Reform supporters would send Zia Yusuf (a muslim whose family originates from Sri Lanka) back where his parents came from if he didn't have money.

You've said this before. Remember we are taking about illegals and we do not know how many are economic migrants, although in any event they are likely to be net beneficiaries of the state even if they do find work. Much better to allow in who we want/need.

Also a quick reminder that the other side of the channel is safe and there is no need for them to risk their lives crossing it - it's a choice.

 

[TailWindHome]

The relevant word to add before 'immigrants' is 'illegal', as that was what was reported in the article. That said, it's more a case of whether the Greens agree with taking on what they've asked for, or whether they are illegal immigration nimbys. There's no good answer for them.

They haven't asked for detention camps
Their policy is to end detention for migrants

 

[Beebo]

I thought Reform were furious with the money being wasted on hotels, but will now be spending more money on detention centres.
It doesn’t make sense.
And the point of any sensible democracy is that you govern for all, and represent the interests of people who didn’t vote for you, as well as the ones who did.

 

[Pblakeney]

I thought Reform were furious with the money being wasted on hotels, but will now be spending more money on detention centres.
It doesn’t make sense.
And the point of any sensible democracy is that you govern for all, and represent the interests of people who didn’t vote for you, as well as the ones who did.

Agreed. The problem is the bit that I made bold.

 

[CXRAndy]

If Reform gain power and actually place illegals in Green districts.

This will be just like when lefties are asked to house an illegal in their spare bedroom. Everyone one of them, came up with pathetic excuse as to why they couldn't take in an illegal immigrant

 

[TailWindHome]

If Reform gain power and actually place illegals in Green districts.

This will be just like when lefties are asked to house an illegal in their spare bedroom. Everyone one of them, came up with pathetic excuse as to why they couldn't take in an illegal immigrant

You support Reform paying to build detention centres now?

 

[CXRAndy]

No they can have tents on the high st of a Green council or MP home residence street.

I bet instantly they want them gone.

Democrats quickly moved on migrants from Martha's vineyard after they were shipped there.

Green and lefties will go berserk if it happens

 

[TailWindHome]

No

You see now the problem with their policy, they need this nonsense to paper over

 

[icowden]

You've said this before. Remember we are taking about illegals and we do not know how many are economic migrants,

As we have a hostile immigration system which classes all asylum seekers as "illegals" that's hardly surprising.

although in any event they are likely to be net beneficiaries of the state even if they do find work. Much better to allow in who we want/need.

So why don't we? Why do we refuse to provide a safe path to claim asylum before they need to cross the channel and get taken in by shysters?

Also a quick reminder that the other side of the channel is safe and there is no need for them to risk their lives crossing it - it's a choice.

A quick reminder that most of the people wanting to cross, want to cross because they speak English and not French or because they want to get to someone they know. That's human nature.

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2050869696459612282

 

[Bromptonaut]

The relevant word to add before 'immigrants' is 'illegal', as that was what was reported in the article. That said, it's more a case of whether the Greens agree with taking on what they've asked for, or whether they are illegal immigration nimbys. There's no good answer for them.

I think Refuk's proposals go well beyond 'illegals' such as boat arrivals.

They're proposing to review Indefinite Leave with a view to deportation for many thousands. Not all that different from compulsory repatriation as proposed by certain people in the seventies.

 

[First Aspect]

I think Refuk's proposals go well beyond 'illegals' such as boat arrivals.

They're proposing to review Indefinite Leave with a view to deportation for many thousands. Not all that different from compulsory repatriation as proposed by certain people in the seventies.

I think that was more a case of someone from Reform with a bit too much zeal (which is most of them) not actually knowing what they were talking about (also most of them) rather than an actual policy, which is why deporting more than one in 100 of the population hasn't featured highly in their campaiging since then.

 

[CXRAndy]

I think Refuk's proposals go well beyond 'illegals' such as boat arrivals.

They're proposing to review Indefinite Leave with a view to deportation for many thousands. Not all that different from compulsory repatriation as proposed by certain people in the seventies.

Millions and millions of deportations

 

[CXRAndy]

Told ya

Greens flipping out over the idea they will have to share their streets with illegals


View: https://x.com/i/status/2051382607519088724

 

[Stevo 666]

They haven't asked for detention camps
Their policy is to end detention for migrants

I'll wait to see if they respond to Reform, although somehow I doubt they will.