Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[First Aspect]

Smoking jacket *and* a deerstalker? I'm not sure that that's good manners, deer chap.

Do you own any leather bound books?

 

[briantrumpet]

Do you own any leather bound books?

I think probably just the one, a presentation copy of The English Hymnal given to my G Grandfather as organist and choirmaster of Temple Church in Bristol (the one with the leaning tower by Temple Meads) for long service there.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Reform brings their silly flag nonsense to the Senedd.

Reform MS says Ukraine flag should not fly at 'virtue signalling' Welsh Parliament

IMHO one of the main charms of Cardiff city centre is the flags, any flags, whatever to occasion there are flags and banners everywhere.

 

[briantrumpet]

Reform brings their silly flag nonsense to the Senedd.

Reform MS says Ukraine flag should not fly at 'virtue signalling' Welsh Parliament

IMHO one of the main charms of Cardiff city centre is the flags, any flags, whatever to occasion there are flags and banners everywhere.

If you're going to do flags, I'd rather it be an inclusive thing rather than nationalistic domination. The deployment of the tricolore in France often falls into that category, and some of the 'fetishisation' of 'the state' verges on the weird.

 

[briantrumpet]

Shocked, I tell you, shocked. I shall have to have a lie down.

 

[Pblakeney]

Shocked, I tell you, shocked. I shall have to have a lie down.

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He can differentiate between personal and Party. Good.
Except he owns the Party.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Newly elected Reform Councillors in Kirklees. Quite astonishing to put yourself forward as a Councillor and not bother to learn the basics. Even more astonishing to say if you go ahead with this vote that I don't understand and couldn't be arsed to learn about, we'll tell constituents it was your fault!


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/Z0drqprSYjc?si=rvKl17lXs2CQb6mW

 

[briantrumpet]

Newly elected Reform Councillors in Kirklees. Quite astonishing to put yourself forward as a Councillor and not bother to learn the basics. Even more astonishing to say if you go ahead with this vote that I don't understand and couldn't be arsed to learn about, we'll tell constituents it was your fault!


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/Z0drqprSYjc?si=rvKl17lXs2CQb6mW

Someone somewhere linked the standing orders, and I have to say that they are a model of clarity, and pretty thorough too. Basically a guidebook of how everything works, and would take about 30 minutes to digest properly, and easily referenced ad hoc if needs be. And Kirklees' own website isn't exactly impenetrable, for someone who's literate.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Someone somewhere linked the standing orders, and I have to say that they are a model of clarity, and pretty thorough too. Basically a guidebook of how everything works, and would take about 30 minutes to digest properly, and easily referenced ad hoc if needs be. And Kirklees' own website isn't exactly impenetrable, for someone who's literate.

As I have said before, I am hopeful that Reform Councils up and down the country will be undone quite spectacularly by their own incompetence and their voters will see what it really means to give them power. Perhaps wishful thinking but we can hope.

 

[C R]

And Kirklees' own website isn't exactly impenetrable, for someone who's literate.

Ahem

 

[briantrumpet]

Ahem

 

[C R]

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I was just reminding you that we're not supposed to point out the intellectual shortcomings of reform's candidates.

 

[briantrumpet]

Only the best.

A Reform UK councillor who vowed to try and address anti-social behaviour and "people feeling unsafe" during her campaign was convicted of assault four months before the local elections. Bouncer Emma Beck, 47, was found guilty of assault by beating after shoving a woman in her 60s to the floor while working the doors at a bar in St Helens, Merseyside. Details of the conviction were not aired during the campaign, which saw Beck elected to represent the Thatto Heath ward on St Helens Council.

 

[briantrumpet]

I was just reminding you that we're not supposed to point out the intellectual shortcomings of reform's candidates.

I only said "for someone who's literate". I didn't question the actual Reform councillors' literacy or intelligence. Obvs. Why would I?

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Only the best.



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and brightest?