Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[briantrumpet]

Equivalent of Strava art

Pfft, way easier, as you don't need to find the right street layout to complete the join-the-dots artwork. You just need to be able not to fall out of the sky or crash into another plane. Oh, and follow a plot.

I'd actually be interested to know the mechanics of how he did it. GPS somehow, I'd assume.

 

[briantrumpet]

Poor Nige.

 

[Pblakeney]

Poor Nige.

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Oh dear, how sad. Just in time for Thursday.
Most telling there is the source. It's like the Torygraph turning on Badenoch.

 

[icowden]

Poor Nige.

Very much depends on your poll though.

Electoral Calculus's poll of polls has Reform on 23.4 place but they have dropped to second behind Labour which has had a significant Burnham upswing to 23.9%. Cons have rallied a bit to 19.7% whereas Greens have dropped to 11.4%. Lib dems stay steady on 10.8%. Weirdly the 10.8% Green vote predicts 70 seats whilst the Green vote only predicts 10.

If there were an election tomorrow Labour would win but would need a Lib Lab pact to govern.

 

[briantrumpet]

Very much depends on your poll though.

Electoral Calculus's poll of polls has Reform on 23.4 place but they have dropped to second behind Labour which has had a significant Burnham upswing to 23.9%. Cons have rallied a bit to 19.7% whereas Greens have dropped to 11.4%. Lib dems stay steady on 10.8%. Weirdly the 10.8% Green vote predicts 70 seats whilst the Green vote only predicts 10.

If there were an election tomorrow Labour would win but would need a Lib Lab pact to govern.

Ashcroft said that the question in this poll was not about what you'd vote now but what you'd vote at the next GE, which would probably explain the difference. It's no more meaningful than any other poll, but quite amusing anyway.

 

[Beebo]

The sad thing is that Farage looks to be a shoe in, in Clacton. And I suspect he’d win a recall by election there too.

 

[Pinno718]

The sad thing is that Farage looks to be a shoe in, in Clacton. And I suspect he’d win a recall by election there too.

Yeah but the stench of the £5m bung just won't go away and once re-elected, the stench gets refreshed.
It's like he's sitting on a turd and at some point he has to stand up*.

*I think this explains his expression.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

You can never write Farage off as he does have the Teflon quality, but it does feel like his brand has been significantly damaged by all of this. Whether or not that is enough to bring about the demise of Reform as a serious threat I guess time will tell and all that.

 

[Beebo]

You can never write Farage off as he does have the Teflon quality, but it does feel like his brand has been significantly damaged by all of this. Whether or not that is enough to bring about the demise of Reform as a serious threat I guess time will tell and all that.

At the moment he knows he has pockets of the country that will support him, but large areas that won’t.
I suspect if you stood him and Binface in a head to head referendum, he would lose nationally.

 

[Psamathe]

Maybe time for Färange to leave "Reform" and start yet another new party, maybe "Reformed" would be an appropriate name (for a private for-profit company ...).

And once he realises he can do that whilst staying as an MP ...

 

[Pinno718]

Maybe time for Färange to leave "Reform" and start yet another new party, maybe "Reformed" would be an appropriate name (for a private for-profit company ...).

And once he realises he can do that whilst staying as an MP ...

'Deform' ?

 

[icowden]

The sad thing is that Farage looks to be a shoe in, in Clacton. And I suspect he’d win a recall by election there too.

It does, but if the people who voted Labour, Lib Dem etc at the last byelection vote Binface, then Farage could be in for a shock.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

[briantrumpet]

It does, but if the people who voted Labour, Lib Dem etc at the last byelection vote Binface, then Farage could be in for a shock.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I'm not sure that Farage voters will have much enthusiasm to get out and vote this time, so if CB voters do, and all the rumblings about Farage continue up to voting day, it could be interesting, and even if Farage wins, the post-election mockery and scrutiny isn't going to let up.

 

[Psamathe]

I'm not sure that Farage voters will have much enthusiasm to get out and vote this time, so if CB voters do, and all the rumblings about Farage continue up to voting day, it could be interesting, and even if Farage wins, the post-election mockery and scrutiny isn't going to let up.

I read in Guardian that the Parliamentary inquiries about the declaration of the £5m carry on even if he is re-elected (paused now but if re-elected will resume).

So Clacton are potentially facing yet another by-election after this one which will irritate Faräge's electorate even more, adding further to the numbers of his supporters "staying home".

He could potentially face a second byelection if the commissioner finds against him and the standards committee recommends a substantial sanction including suspension from the Commons, triggering a possible recall petition. In that possible second contest, the major parties have vowed to stand against him.
from https://www.theguardian.com/politic...d-gifts-kangaroo-court-reform-mp-sarah-pochin

 

[Pinno718]

I read in Guardian that the Parliamentary inquiries about the declaration of the £5m carry on even if he is re-elected (paused now but if re-elected will resume).

That's the bit where he can no longer sit on the turd.