Spin Time

[Mr Celine]

People are concerned at the cost to themselves and the changes being imposed on them.

I'm very concerned by two winters in a row with no snow, with having to mow the lawn in November and March and seeing 4 degrees higher than previous on my outdoor thermometer. All in the last 5 years, and I've lived here more than 30 years.

 

[monkers]

But how does Nigel know these things? He doesn't live in their streets either. He lives in a large house in the countryside in the village of Downe and has a second home by the sea in Greatstone. He has no more knowledge of these people than the journalist asking the question. He's rarely ever seen in Clacton as he's too busy greasing Trump's anus.

What a patronising sexist pig.

And another house in Frinton-on-Sea.

 

[All uphill]

The Tories have a long history of reinventing themselves and being ruthless when it helps them survive - the night of the long knives comes to mind.

What is different this time is the tiny number of active party members, and the high average age of those members. I don't see that they have a way out of their situation, and I'm sure if there is a way out it's not Jenrick.

 

[Stevo 666]

Ah yes, I agree concerns are not being addressed properly. Labour and the Tories before them have not been addressing concerns.

True, to the extent that concerns can be addressed. When it comes to things such as extra costs, a pat on the head and a soothing message to say that 'it's all for the best' won't cut it with alot of the electorate.

But as mentioned, IMO it's yet to develop into a major election defining issue - the biggest two are the ones I mentioned above.

 

[Stevo 666]

I'm very concerned by two winters in a row with no snow, with having to mow the lawn in November and March and seeing 4 degrees higher than previous on my outdoor thermometer. All in the last 5 years, and I've lived here more than 30 years.

Maybe so, but a lot of people can't afford higher costs to pay for Milibands edicts. That may not be an issue for you but it doesn't mean it isn't an issue.

 

[secretsqirrel]

The Tories have a long history of reinventing themselves and being ruthless when it helps them survive - the night of the long knives comes to mind.

What is different this time is the tiny number of active party members, and the high average age of those members. I don't see that they have a way out of their situation, and I'm sure if there is a way out it's not Jenrick.

As much as I dislike personality politics, the Tories need to find one desperately, Jenrick doesn’t cut it either (no, please not Johnson).

 

[secretsqirrel]

I guess that Labour might be keeping their fingers crossed, given that the GE is still long enough away for some conspicuous crash & burn from Reform. And on past record, there should be a steady flow of stories about people with 'interesting' views and histories.

That said, Labour would be wise neither just to keep fingers crossed, nor in aping Reform lock, stock and barrel. If they don't remember why people gave them such a large majority, they deserve to sink.

Some may not like this but Labour need to push likes of Rayner to the front a bit more, as they need more of the ‘common touch‘, as they seem to be out of touch with their base. They have no money, so need to be more savvy with their comms.

 

[Stevo 666]

I expect NHS Waiting lists , GP appointments and maybe dentists to be another factor. Numbers are going in improving direction but wether fast enough and if maintainable I've no idea.

I think most of the electorate couldn't care less about "Growth" as it's in many ways one step away from what they want. Growth might be needed to provide money to get NHS waiting lists down but electorate don't care how waiting times reduce, just that the reduce. But a lot of any growth Labour might achieve might be swallowed up by things that don't make life better for those with votes eg increased military spending.

Other issues will give other Parties plenty to campaign on eg are our rivers still open sewers despite massive water bill increases.

Ian

Agree that those NHS and dental metrics do matter to quite a few people. Although clearly if we are going to allow the population to expand rapidly via high levels of immigration then that will put pressure on those services.

Growth in itself may not matter directly to many, but to the extent that it drives things like new jobs, pay rises etc it links to people's sense of economic wellbeing, which generally does matter.

 

[briantrumpet]

Some may not like this but Labour need to push likes of Rayner to the front a bit more, as they need more of the ‘common touch‘, as they seem to be out of touch with their base. They have no money, so need to be more savvy with their comms.

Indeed. She's good on the stump, and riles the right people. And she's got character and instant recognition.

 

[Stevo 666]

Some may not like this but Labour need to push likes of Rayner to the front a bit more, as they need more of the ‘common touch‘, as they seem to be out of touch with their base. They have no money, so need to be more savvy with their comms.

I hope that they do push Ange 'Toreh Scum' Rayner to the front more and give her a better opportunity to put her foot in her mouth more often 😇

Indeed. She's good on the stump, and riles the right people. And she's got character and instant recognition.

There's no denying that ol' 'Two Houses' has the common touch.

I say giver her enough rope...

 

[CXRAndy]

But how does Nigel know these things? He doesn't live in their streets either. He lives in a large house in the countryside in the village of Downe and has a second home by the sea in Greatstone. He has no more knowledge of these people than the journalist asking the question. He's rarely ever seen in Clacton as he's too busy greasing Trump's anus.

What a patronising sexist pig.

He has his ear closer to the ground than most reporters. They come unstuck when questioned back

 

[secretsqirrel]

I hope that they do push Ange 'Toreh Scum' Rayner to the front more and give her a better opportunity to put her foot in her mouth more often 😇

There's no denying that ol' 'Two Houses' has the common touch.

I say giver her enough rope...

I was thinking of you when I wrote ‘Some may not like this’, but on the other hand I know that she gets you riled 😁

 

[icowden]

He has his ear closer to the ground than most reporters. They come unstuck when questioned back

No, they don't. They tend to become confused because he comes at them with a barrage of information - very patronisingly if they are female reporters. He doesn't let them speak or challenge his vitriol. It's a similar technique to Trump. You talk over the person asking the question and treat them as if they are the idiot in the conversation. Doesn't matter what you say, just that you keep talking.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

They are making a start already
Dame Andre Jenkyn’s (not sure about the spelling) will sack all the DEI staff immediately

which as 2 problems
a) they have a contract - so will need to be made redundant - which costs money

b) there aren't any - which does at least reduce the redundancy payments costs

doesn;t show much in the way of research done for the role

 

[CXRAndy]

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