briantrumpet
Timewaster
Like piles.
Starmer's vision quest
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Like piles.
bobzmyunkle
Veteran
Only in the same way Multiknob is missed.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Can you imagine how he'd be trying to justify Labour's current slow motion car crash?
He was so pleased when Labour won, and nobody really had an issue with that from what I remember; the problem was, and remains, Starmer.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Sorry, obviously is Makerfield rather than Wigan. It's going to motivate the Reform vote, given the slimmish majority in 2024.
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
I can only think Burham has offered him a job once he's pm. He's quite young, not ill (afaik), and there's no reason for him to stand down really. I wonder if the plan is that Simon stands as Manchester mayor. It's £18k a year more and less travelling.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
"What could possibly go wrong with your cunning plan, Baldrick?"
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Haha, Starmer deserves to be toast - he's re-drafted 'genius' McSweeney to help him navigate the weeks ahead (if the rumours are true - not confirmed). The fact that Mahmood is still in post despite resignation threats to unseat Starmer suggests that Starmer still hasn't worked out anything at all. "Lessons won't be learned", ought to be his epitaph. He's an idiot.
Pblakeney
Squire
To be seen if the arrogance will beget schadenfreude.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
Labour MPs (mainly starmer supporters) seem to be repeatedly repeating what a disaster the election results were for them but not asking what nor what they should be doing about it. Starmer came out with "incremental change won't cut it” and then proceeded to nnounce policies that were somewhat less than incremental then a King's speach that was again less than "incremental".
It like they've all learnt that "I take responsibility" means wiping the slate clean, nothing more to do, like some "Get out of jail free card". No analysis as to what went wrong, why, where, etc. just "it was a disaster ... time to move on with business more cautious than usual".
Psamathe
Legendary Member
The difficulty is looking at the margins is not comparing like with like. Saying Labour 2024 vs Labour 2026 isn't really valid when it's Simonds 2024 vs Burnham 2026.
That said it will be interesting to see how "gloves off" Labour go eg £5m undeclared "gifts", disavowed councillors, .
midlandsgrimpeur
Senior Member
But is it more cunning than a fox who has just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford?
TailWindHome
Über Member
bobzmyunkle
Veteran
Might be relevant that Simons was parachuted in in 2024 and as such wasn't at all popular. I assume Burnham might be more popular but things have moved on a lot in 2 years. (I'm still trying to work out why a nasty little right wing shoot like Simons stood down for Burnham).
