Starmer's vision quest

[briantrumpet]

I will concede that my time of cycling was outside of rush hour so reasonably pleasant regarding traffic, and some well designed cycle paths.
There were 3 hills either way but none of them went over 6% so that too was relatively pleasant. No narrow hedgerow single lanes either.

There are so many variables to whether a bike commute is worth contemplating. I think e-bikes make it much more attractive for many, but even so, I can still see why a (preferably small electric) car would be the logical choice, even for a keen cyclist, on the many routes which are poorly served by public transport.

 

[First Aspect]

Well, I've booked a ticket, whether or not my farming friends are free. The price is crazy: £9.75 return for about four hours on the train there and back, including the stunning bit of Brunel line along the coast from Exminster to Newton Abbot, and then along the tortuous line from Plymouth to Gunnislake going over the Calstock viaduct.

Could you put the kettle on, @First Aspect, please?

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That river looks exceptionally brown. It there is foam, wash your hands when you get home.

 

[briantrumpet]

That river looks exceptionally brown. It there is foam, wash your hands when you get home.

I wasn't planning on tombstoning off the viaduct, not least as the next train would be two hours later.

 

[First Aspect]

I wasn't planning on tombstoning off the viaduct, not least as the next train would be two hours later.

A bungee attraction wouldn't be a bad call actually.

 

[Pross]

Are you deliberately avoiding answering?

if I live in (say) Berwick-upon-Tweed (England), it is not unreasonable to assume you may travel the few miles into Scotland, for work, or leisure pursuit.

Thought I’d answered. Yes, why not? Just because it’s devolved it shouldn’t be problematic in the grand scheme of things to get an agreement. They already do that with people crossing borders for school or hospital appointments.

 

[BoldonLad]

Thought I’d answered. Yes, why not? Just because it’s devolved it shouldn’t be problematic in the grand scheme of things to get an agreement. They already do that with people crossing borders for school or hospital appointments.

Yes, but the subject was bus travel, not schools or hospitals. There is presently no agreement on OAP bus passes.

 

[briantrumpet]

Obsessed. Why not just go after the people who actually did the fraud, given that's a decent story in itself?

I suspect she'd have a good case for claiming this is libellous.

 

[First Aspect]

I think the Green party candidacy for Makersfield is a false flag move by Labour.

 

[Pross]

Yes, but the subject was bus travel, not schools or hospitals. There is presently no agreement on OAP bus passes.

Why would doing something as radical as free bus travel for all be constrained by what currently happens though? At the end of the day it's not something that will ever happen but we all have things that we feel would be beneficial to society that will never get introduced. From what I can work out, passengers currently spend around a total of £4 billion a year on bus fares in England (with around £2.6 billion supported by Government) so the numbers are relatively small in terms of government spending.

 

[briantrumpet]

The CEO of Hope Not Hate makes a fair point about how the Green Party have handled this so far. Though obviously at least he's stood down, unlike the Neo Nazi-befriending Reform candidate. I suspect that the Green Party's decentralised structure isn't really suitable now it's transformed itself into a national party with quite a high profile.

 

[briantrumpet]

Sorry - maybe that should have gone in the Green Party thread.

 

[Stevo 666]

I can't help you if you can't be bothered to look at the answers. I notice that you are studiously avoiding explaining why privatisation of the Water industry was a good thing whilst pretending to be too dim to see the answer (that it isn't, wasn't and won't be).

I asked a question and he didn't supply an answer. I appreciate that you're trying to brass neck this one now as he clearly didn't answer my questions.

 

[Stevo 666]

Brian, I think Stevo avoids points. In think he's aichmophobic.

I guess you get brownie points with Brian for using long words. Have a leftie gold star 🙂

 

[icowden]

I asked a question and he didn't supply an answer. I appreciate that you're trying to brass neck this one now as he clearly didn't answer my questions.

Yes he did. Are you paying for the 5 minute argument or the full 10 minutes?

 

[First Aspect]

I guess you get brownie points with Brian for using long words. Have a leftie gold star 🙂

The associating of politically left leanings and long words is quite telling Stevo.