Starmer's vision quest

[Stevo 666]

I agree. I also think we shouldn't feed cats cheese, we shouldn't paint big ben bright pink and we shouldn't expect flamingos to cook dinner.
Glad we agree that a thing that wasn't going to happen isn't going to happen. I'm just not sure why you brought it up.

I haven't agreed anything. If you know the future net immigration numbers then please let us know, otherwise not sure how you can say it won't be an issue.

Fact remains many people think that the numbers are too high regardless of what you think.

 

[AuroraSaab]

In Belgium 370 people received euthanasia for mental health reasons between 2002 and 2021, including eating disorders. 4.6% of those were due to autistic disorders. I think that's a dismal failing of the mental health service and social services. I don't think it's what people imagine when they talk about assisted dying but it's what you end up with when legislation isn't thoroughly thought through with adequate safeguards.

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/Kimmi520381244/status/1922254798365008304?t=2WcU3qbdUcGqYl5XlXBeOw&s=19

 

[Psamathe]

(Previously posted to the wrong thread!)
Re: Assisted Dying
Important subject with many aspects. Worth a separate thread (particularly Starmer isn't expressing strong views).?

Ian

 

[Bazzer]

In Belgium 370 people received euthanasia for mental health reasons between 2002 and 2021, including eating disorders. 4.6% of those were due to autistic disorders. I think that's a dismal failing of the mental health service and social services. I don't think it's what people imagine when they talk about assisted dying but it's what you end up with when legislation isn't thoroughly thought through with adequate safeguards.

Well now you have switched to autism rather than anorexia, but even so, on average19 people a year took assisted dying for mental health reasons.
There are increased protective measures for people with mental suffering and/or the person has a serious and incurable psychiatric disorder. As I am sure you have read, the increased measures include an obligation for the consultation of two physicians, one of whom must be a psychiatrist.
How is someone who has a psychiatric disorder/mental health issues, who has voluntarily repeatedly applied for assisted dying and has been assessed by two physicians a "dismal failing of the [Belgian] health service and social services"?