Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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I cannot understand the focus on this and claims of Antisemitism.
Whatever Netanyahu's people say criticising the state of Israel and/or the concept of Zionism are NOT Antisemitic.
Starmer's vision quest
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I cannot understand the focus on this and claims of Antisemitism.
Whatever Netanyahu's people say criticising the state of Israel and/or the concept of Zionism are NOT Antisemitic.
Stevo 666
Senior Member
Out of interest, which parties have you voted for?
Stevo 666
Senior Member
Anyway, looks it it's not just the properly wealthy that have had enough of Labour's high tax Britain: the Middle classes are starting to get in on the game and up sticks as well.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-flee-britain-for-med-after-reeves-tax-raids/
Cue denial responses 🙂
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-flee-britain-for-med-after-reeves-tax-raids/
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First Aspect
Well-Known Member
Yup, taxes were higher under the Tories than at any time since the 1950s just after the war.
What's your solution Stevo? Please dont say Reform, because they have a set of high spend low tax policies and little the way of maths.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
Well I never!
Lots of Labour promises that seem to have evaporated eg
Despite the labour government committing to end badger culling in 2024, licences have continued to be reissued (now delayed until 2029!)
From Labour Manifesto "We will improve access to nature, promote biodiversity, and protect our landscapes and wildlife." yet
Labour blocks proposal for ‘swift bricks’ in all new homes (costing £75 per house!)
etc., etc.
(Can't be bothered to trawl back through all my saved links on the subject)
Ian
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
I'd say I have been wilfully/angrily apolitical for most of my adult life (simplified as - whoever you vote for, you always end up with The Government) but in the last 10+ years I've been an SNP voter, as the best hope for removing the country where I live from being constantly dragged in whichever direction the residents of another country are gaslit into choosing.
The deliberate blocking of viable routes for Scottish independence, along with the (apparently successful) campaign to toxify & discredit the SNP are conspiring to push me back towards my default posture of unaligned blanket contempt & hostility. The expected Labour/Reform/Tory coalition (Keep The Nats Out! is always priority no. 1 for UK-based parties) forming the next Scottish government in May '26 will probably do the trick.
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icowden
Shaman
No - cue responses that again you are taking what is published in the Telegraph to be factual even though we keep pointing out that it's no better than a comic, constantly publishing paid puff pieces and made up stories.
Did you ever hear about the boy that cried wolf? That's the Telegraph, that is.
You spend post after post on here pointing out that a paper on Brexit was commissioned by a pro-euro group but are happy to post an article based on information from a company (Astons) that sells golden passports and foreign property to UK residents. What did you expect them to say?
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Stevo 666
Senior Member
Solution to this particular issue is to not overtax the internationally mobile wealthy so they don't leave. In particular the global IHT reg seems to be the biggest issue. And don't hammer the middle classes and not quite as wealth entrepreneurs quite as much so they might be less inclined to leave.
Sadly lefty governments seem to be able to grasp this, so the answer definitely isn't Labour.
Stevo 666
Senior Member
Show me some counter evidence then.
I don't care if you don't like then source. I'm sure if the wealthy amd middles classes are flocking to the UK to pay more tax then the Guardian or similar lefty rag will have an article on it that you will believe unquestioningly. Your turn.
Stevo 666
Senior Member
Didn't realise you were North of the border. Kind of understand where you're coming from even if I don't agree. The SNP have very successfully toxified and discredited themselves without anyone else having to intervene and are now paying the price.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
A better long term solution is to completely rethink the paradigm of a 'growth' economy.
Grow more food locally. Build community based wind, watermill and solar power local networks. Stop relying on profiteers for unsustainable and often militaristic industrial production and consume less.
I am happy to hammer the middle classes. They are the ones who oppress me more or less directly by voting for their own comfort (propping up property prices in particular, being content to limit access to free higher education too) rather than working for an egalitarian society. Was ever thus.
Labour, as is, is merely the safety valve.
Stevo 666
Senior Member
So what's your plan to get to this promised land? Sounds a bit unlikely to me.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
I'm aiming - was pushed actually - to move out of London for a start. Assemble my own solar kit and grow veg. Fish with a boat. That sort of thing.
I'm also aiming to present a case for rejecting consumerism in as many places as I can. It takes two generations at least to build a movement but most of the people who are essentially sympatica/o probably don't spend too much energy on the internet now.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
I also have a crackpot engineering scheme to build a rechargeable compressed air power system for my boat. Home processed methane generators are also a possible. Cleaner to harvest and burn it than let it fly.
