Starmer's vision quest

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icowden

Shaman
I happened to use the system within a day or so of its introduction and whilst it worked for me and I applaud the local health authority for looking at ways to relieve the pressure on GP appointments, the flaws were obvious. It was abandoned very quickly.
It might *look* as though it was abandoned, but it isn't as far as I am aware. NHS England rolled out the system to all surgeries. Some, like my surgery have technical expertise and it works brilliantly. I really do mean that. There are no waiting times for reception to answer calls, and appointments are plentiful because they triage so well. They allow non-urgents to be booked weeks in advance and know how to keep emergency slots for those needing "on the day".

My previous surgery had the same system but was awful. That's why I moved (well that and them breaking the GP Contract and advising me to spend over £500 on travel vaccinations supposed to be provided for free by the NHS).

It's things like - the patient forms should be available at least from 8am to 6pm if not 24 hour. Opening them for 15 minutes until you have run out of appointments just diverts everyone to the phone or turning up in person, irate. They also have to be clear that if for any reason you can't use the web forms (disability, age etc) you can still phone the surgery. They will do the form for you. That's probably what your surgery are doing anywy.
 

icowden

Shaman
You don't come across that way, but you do appear to be a Starmer superfan!

That's fightin' talk!

I'm a Davey fan and don't you forget it!
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
They are out-Pythoning LoB already. I suspect that Starmer won't be overly worried, in the circumstances. Not yet, anyway, if this is the grand launch, even if he has left his left flank undefended while he's been moving to the right.

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Might be slightly exaggerated, perhaps for maximum pre-emptive damage.

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Pblakeney

Well-Known Member
Have you not seen Keir Starmer? He didn't get elected by promising to nationalise the utililties, strengthen the unions, increase taxes to 40% for anyone earning more than £30k etc etc

He went to the right. The weird bit is that most Labour PMs who have been centerist have stopped moving rightwards at some point whereas Starmer is trying to adopt reform policies!

I do find it strange that the tories are objecting to tory policies just because it is Starmer trying to implement them.
It would be understandable if he was implementing left wing policies, but he isn't.
 

briantrumpet

Über Member
I do find it strange that the tories are objecting to tory policies just because it is Starmer trying to implement them.
It would be understandable if he was implementing left wing policies, but he isn't.

Don't forget it's nothing to do with actual policies for committed Tories, just the colour of the rosette. Remember the continued cheering for Johnson, Truss and Sunak back on CS despite the record borrowing and taxes. The only reasoning was an evidence-free "Labour would be worse". You have to have true faith and ignore evidence, as is the same with Trump.
 

Stevo 666

Senior Member
Have you not seen Keir Starmer? He didn't get elected by promising to nationalise the utililties, strengthen the unions, increase taxes to 40% for anyone earning more than £30k etc etc

He went to the right. The weird bit is that most Labour PMs who have been centerist have stopped moving rightwards at some point whereas Starmer is trying to adopt reform policies!

The same bloke in charge of a government that has hammered business with NI hikes, is introducing a workers rights bill, has chucked money at the public sector and the unions, driven increasing numbers of the wealthy and non doms away etc?

He had plenty of room to move right but still be a lefty.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Not wrong though, quite a few Labour MPs tacitly support extreme Islamic radicals

And this isn't even the Labour Party!

Panic's hilariously infectious, innit? :biggrin:
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Corbyn's new party post on 𝕏 received far more likes than any of Starmer's announcements by a country mile

He's far more popular

:laugh:
 
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