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Psamathe

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I use a VPN. It's not to watch porn but to improve IT security
Likewise. Several years ago I was having lots of issues with my BT phone line and eventually had the issue appropriately escalated. One call the BT manager read me a list of websites I'd browsed that day!

Also I sometimes need to upload images to internet backup and my website using FTP (or other non-web IP ports). Some campsites' Wi-Fi block non 80/443 (web browsing) ports so then only way is with OpenVPN VPN.

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CXRAndy

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Middle-class Britons risk a retirement “disaster” after a record £5bn was pulled from pension pots in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s inheritance tax raid.

Official figures showed 672,000 retirees, representing roughly 5pc of all pensioners, pulled £5bn from their pots in the first three months of this year.
 

Rusty Nails

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Middle-class Britons risk a retirement “disaster” after a record £5bn was pulled from pension pots in the wake of Rachel Reeves’s inheritance tax raid.

Official figures showed 672,000 retirees, representing roughly 5pc of all pensioners, pulled £5bn from their pots in the first three months of this year.
AIUI if they leave their money in their pension pots until retirement then the fund will not be liable to IHT. Only unused pension funds will be affected.
If they want to use their pension pots to fund their pension and then decide to pull the money out because less will go to their children if they die early then they are making the decision and any ‘disaster’ is their choice.
I don’t like the changes but do not believe they will lead to any large scale ‘disaster’ except for children who expect an inheritance....and for financial advisers/providers who would lose fees.
£5bn sounds a lot but the average of funds being taken out is 7.5k per person and over £1.1 trillion (£1100bn) is held in UK pension funds.
 
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Pblakeney

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I'll play dumb just for the fun of it.
Pensioners taking money out of their pension pots is entirely what I'd expect to be happening.
 
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Rusty Nails

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If you bring your children up expecting something like that, you've failed as a parent

So no ‘disaster’ for anyone then in reality.

Is giving kids the expectation of an inheritance any different to funding them for cars and houses other than just a difference in timescale?

I have nothing in principle against either option.
 

Psamathe

Über Member
Is giving kids the expectation of an inheritance any different to funding them for cars and houses other than just a difference in timescale?
There is the aspect that for those families with funds to consider inheritance, dementia rates are increasing and it's an expensive condition for those whose means tests mean no state assistance.
 

Dorset Boy

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AIUI if they leave their money in their pension pots until retirement then the fund will not be liable to IHT. Only unused pension funds will be affected.
If they want to use their pension pots to fund their pension and then decide to pull the money out because less will go to their children if they die early then they are making the decision and any ‘disaster’ is their choice.
I don’t like the changes but do not believe they will lead to any large scale ‘disaster’ except for children who expect an inheritance....and for financial advisers/providers who would lose fees.
£5bn sounds a lot but the average of funds being taken out is 7.5k per person and over £1.1 trillion (£1100bn) is held in UK pension funds.

Err, you do not understand. The fund pre-retirement is unused and will be subject to IHT. Why do you possibly think that a pre-retirement unused fund is different from a post-retirement unused fund? You would need to define what retirement is for a fund which is ludicrous.
 

Psamathe

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You would need to define what retirement is for a fund which is ludicrous.
As you say, when you retire is very subjective. I "retired" age 47 in that I chose to stop work with no intent to restart ... except for several years after that I did defined hours consultancy for the company on salary. When that ended (my choice) I had to wait until age 60 to get my first pension actually under a Government plan (QUANGO). Had to wait until age 66 to start New State Pension. Private Pension funds (several from different employers) still sitting there as their "nominal retirement age" gets adjusted every time I don’t start drawing anything (they started set to age 60, then once I passed that reset to something else - all meaningless and only used for projections on statements).

Ian
 

Rusty Nails

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Err, you do not understand. The fund pre-retirement is unused and will be subject to IHT. Why do you possibly think that a pre-retirement unused fund is different from a post-retirement unused fund? You would need to define what retirement is for a fund which is ludicrous.

Yes, on reading it back I did word that first bit incorrectly. Depending on whether death occurred before the annuity or drawdown had started or after, the whole or the residue of the fund at that date is unused and would be subject to IHT.
The point I was trying to make was that the recipient had made their choices freely, was dead and paying IHT was certainly no disaster for them, middle class or not
 

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