Starmer's vision quest

[Stevo 666]

Burnham has now been barred from standing, which, I think is risky for him, the longer before he can exit the Mayor role and become an MP ( or better) the more chance of “issues” emerging from his time as Mayor.

Saw that, although this probably won't be the end of it in terms of Labour Party in-fighting. Let's see what happens next...

 

[Stevo 666]

Genuinely don't understand what's 'coincidental' here. You right-wing windowlickers are weird.

Doesn't surprise me that you don't understand. You leftie losers aren't as clever as you think you are.

 

[Psamathe]

As much as I want Starmer to stop the Glasman/McSweeney twaddle, and that Burnham seems to be doing a good job in Manchester, I think this was the way to go about it, and I can't see how he expected the NEC to rubber stamp his candidature, all things considered.

To me it's call "democracy". Local constituency choses who they want to represent them. How many of the constituency electorate got any say in the NEC?

 

[Shortfall]

I'm just glad that we've got a strong and stable government after the last lot. At least there are grown ups in the room now.

Etc.

 

[briantrumpet]

To me it's call "democracy". Local constituency choses who they want to represent them. How many of the constituency electorate got any say in the NEC?

Hasn't been the case in either Labour or Conservatives for a long time. The selection of party candidates is one of the many eye-opening bits of Ian Dunt's book. The loony left wing of Labour (now Your Party) shows what happens when there isn't any real management, and everyone thinks that they are the Messiah.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Hasn't been the case in either Labour or Conservatives for a long time. The selection of party candidates is one of the many eye-opening bits of Ian Dunt's book. The loony left wing of Labour (now Your Party) shows what happens when there isn't any real management, and everyone thinks that they are the Messiah.

This, as part of the electorate I have never chosen what candidate stands, the local and central parties do this. Quite a bit of scrutiny should be applied, Reform are trying to learn this.
Labour being Labour might have already decided that the next by-election would have a all female shortlist for example.

 

[briantrumpet]

Well, Burnham seems to be burning his bridges in a fit of pique already. He says that he first found out about his rejection for the media, but apparently Labour had tried to ring him, and sent an email when he didn't answer. And now he's behaving bit like a spurned lover, suggesting they'll lose the by-election because he won't be the candidate. Not terribly becoming.

Even if really disappointed (aka mightily pissed off), he could have done the "Obviously I am deeply disappointed, but I respect the decision of the NEC, even if I disagree with it, and will continue to argue for the values that I think should define the Labour Party. I look forward to continuing my work as Labour Mayor for Manchester, helping to bring prosperity to the North West."

 

[BoldonLad]

Saw that, although this probably won't be the end of it in terms of Labour Party in-fighting. Let's see what happens next...

All ready an article on BBC, haven’t read it yet

 

[Stevo 666]

All ready an article on BBC, haven’t read it yet

And a few other websites. There always time for a U-turn 😊

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2015468079589863634

 

[briantrumpet]

My Bluesky feed seems to be fairly evenly spread between those saying Starmer was absolutely right to do what he did and those saying the complete opposite. That said, I think Burnham played it rather poorly, especially handling his rejection: I suspect that there was an element of thinking that the nomination was his by right of his history and ambition, and that never goes down well.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Doesn't surprise me that you don't understand. You leftie losers aren't as clever as you think you are.

I guess not.

Maybe as an experiment, next time I get the opportunity to take out my democratic right for some exercise, I'll vote for the local fascist bigot & see if my IQ increases.

It evidently works for you. 🙂

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Doesn't surprise me that you don't understand. You leftie losers aren't as clever as you think you are.

I reckon @Stevo 666 is as clever as we think he is.

 

[secretsqirrel]

My Bluesky feed seems to be fairly evenly spread between those saying Starmer was absolutely right to do what he did and those saying the complete opposite. That said, I think Burnham played it rather poorly, especially handling his rejection: I suspect that there was an element of thinking that the nomination was his by right of his history and ambition, and that never goes down well.

Well he still has a job which is superior to being a backbencher, where he was risking being neither.

 

[Pblakeney]

My Bluesky feed seems to be fairly evenly spread between those saying Starmer was absolutely right to do what he did and those saying the complete opposite. That said, I think Burnham played it rather poorly, especially handling his rejection: I suspect that there was an element of thinking that the nomination was his by right of his history and ambition, and that never goes down well.

I think Burnham probably got it wrong. There was no guarantee that he'd win the by-election and Labour could well have lost the mayorship.
Add in the leadership challenge and Starmer had no choice. Not that it will make Starmer any safer.