Starmer's vision quest

[CXRAndy]

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[Psamathe]

Worsening Frustration: One thing Labour seem really bad about is "Answering the question". Ages since I've heard an interviewed Labour Minister answer the question asked. Classic example from Ms Rayner today when she was asked "Do you think there should be tax increases?" And all she could keep syaing was "What I thiunk is that we should build lots of houses, gwe should get illegal immigration. under control ...". Repeating the question doesn't get the answer.

If you went into a ticket office and asked" What price is a ticket London to Birmingham?" and were told "Truro to Southampton costs £56". Ask "No, London to Birmingham?" and were told" Glasgow to Manchester £74", etc. you'd be calling the manager or just giving up and not travelling.

Whilst it's been an issue with Government for years (all parties) Labour seem to have taken it to a new level.

I thinking this failure to answer direct clear questions is a big contributor to the public dispair in politics seeking "None of the above".

Ian

 

[briantrumpet]

Worsening Frustration: One thing Labour seem really bad about is "Answering the question". Ages since I've heard an interviewed Labour Minister answer the question asked. Classic example from Ms Rayner today when she was asked "Do you think there should be tax increases?" And all she could keep syaing was "What I thiunk is that we should build lots of houses, gwe should get illegal immigration. under control ...". Repeating the question doesn't get the answer.

If you went into a ticket office and asked" What price is a ticket London to Birmingham?" and were told "Truro to Southampton costs £56". Ask "No, London to Birmingham?" and were told" Glasgow to Manchester £74", etc. you'd be calling the manager or just giving up and not travelling.

Whilst it's been an issue with Government for years (all parties) Labour seem to have taken it to a new level.

I thinking this failure to answer direct clear questions is a big contributor to the public dispair in politics seeking "None of the above".

Ian

The trouble is that increasingly since Thatcher's days, the press offices of parties have tried to create the illusion of unity of policy, though that has failed when there's been a proper split in the party (Militant Tendency comes to mind). I much preferred it when people could be honest about their convictions in public (even Thatcher was sometimes happy to have friendly challenge to her views). I guess that Alastair Campbell was the most obvious example of trying to control every aspect of party communication to give that illusion, and it's carried on in the same vein since.

 

[CXRAndy]

The party of rapist apologists, releasing sex offenders early-shocker


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[Stevo 666]

Worsening Frustration: One thing Labour seem really bad about is "Answering the question". Ages since I've heard an interviewed Labour Minister answer the question asked. Classic example from Ms Rayner today when she was asked "Do you think there should be tax increases?" And all she could keep syaing was "What I thiunk is that we should build lots of houses, gwe should get illegal immigration. under control ...". Repeating the question doesn't get the answer.

If you went into a ticket office and asked" What price is a ticket London to Birmingham?" and were told "Truro to Southampton costs £56". Ask "No, London to Birmingham?" and were told" Glasgow to Manchester £74", etc. you'd be calling the manager or just giving up and not travelling.

Whilst it's been an issue with Government for years (all parties) Labour seem to have taken it to a new level.

I thinking this failure to answer direct clear questions is a big contributor to the public dispair in politics seeking "None of the above".

Ian

If it's not on her pre-prepared script then 'Two Houses' Rayner often struggles. I saw a similar thing in those pre-election debates.

 

[CXRAndy]

Booo

The UK is crying out for you Angela

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-run-to-replace-keir-starmer-as-labour-leader

 

[Psamathe]

If it's not on her pre-prepared script then 'Two Houses' Rayner often struggles. I saw a similar thing in those pre-election debates.

It's not just Ms Rayner but all of them failing to even try and answer the asked question. They seem to regard a TV interview as a platform for their Party Political Broadcast. Most people hate Party Political Broadcasts and most inverviewers are asking questions the viewers want to hear the answer to ... and when they don't get any answer maybe politician doesn't care, maybe doesn't understand or maybe the answer shows no justification, etc. all of which further reinforces that politics has failed and has no answers so why bother or maybe just vote for some disrupter.

Ian

 

[Stevo 666]

It's not just Ms Rayner but all of them failing to even try and answer the asked question. They seem to regard a TV interview as a platform for their Party Political Broadcast. Most people hate Party Political Broadcasts and most inverviewers are asking questions the viewers want to hear the answer to ... and when they don't get any answer maybe politician doesn't care, maybe doesn't understand or maybe the answer shows no justification, etc. all of which further reinforces that politics has failed and has no answers so why bother or maybe just vote for some disrupter.

Ian

While some seem to deliberately go off on a different tack, Rayner seems genuinely unable to think on her feet in those sorts of situations. Although agree, it does seem like asking most politicians a question is a bit of a futile exercise.

 

[Rusty Nails]

While some seem to deliberately go off on a different tack, Rayner seems genuinely unable to think on her feet in those sorts of situations. Although agree, it does seem like asking most politicians a question is a bit of a futile exercise.

Many years ago, when I was in a job that required occasional interviews by the press, I was taught on PR training courses to just have two or three points that I wanted to get over and to avoid direct answers for questions that could be controversial. Deflection was the tactic, and I believe all politicians go through some similar training when elected.

 

[Stevo 666]

Many years ago, when I was in a job that required occasional interviews by the press, I was taught on PR training courses to just have two or three points that I wanted to get over and to avoid direct answers for questions that could be controversial. Deflection was the tactic, and I believe all politicians go through some similar training when elected.

I'm sure they do. But not all matters are controversial.

 

[Pblakeney]

Worsening Frustration: One thing Labour seem really bad about is "Answering the question". Ages since I've heard an interviewed Labour Minister answer the question asked. Classic example from Ms Rayner today when she was asked "Do you think there should be tax increases?" And all she could keep syaing was "What I thiunk is that we should build lots of houses, gwe should get illegal immigration. under control ...". Repeating the question doesn't get the answer.

If you went into a ticket office and asked" What price is a ticket London to Birmingham?" and were told "Truro to Southampton costs £56". Ask "No, London to Birmingham?" and were told" Glasgow to Manchester £74", etc. you'd be calling the manager or just giving up and not travelling.

Whilst it's been an issue with Government for years (all parties) Labour seem to have taken it to a new level.

I thinking this failure to answer direct clear questions is a big contributor to the public dispair in politics seeking "None of the above".

Ian

I cannot for the life of me remember that last time any politician gave a full concise answer to a question that was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I judge people by their actions, not their words as words are cheap.