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matticus

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Absolutely this. A mis-spoken word will break a career.
Also factor in that the RW outlets are slavering over Rayner, and will hang onto every word to try and skewer her over something no matter how trivial.
Didn’t see the interview with Kuenssberg but I suspect that she was trying a lot of leading questions which is her usual style and Rayner was having none of it.

It's the leading questions that create the problem. You can't demand Politicians ANSWER THE QUESTION!!! when so many questions are of the style
Have you stopped beating your wife?
 
I agree except, one job I was approaching director level of a significant subsidiary in a very innovative company and a project meeting was rescheduled to take place in Group CEOs office ... and he attended and he more than participated and made some rather "controversial" suggestions followed by "And what does Ian think?" at times getting aggressive to the point where today it couldn't happen without risk of bullying accusations. And I of course defended myself, disagreed with his suggestions, etc. and it was all a test to make sure I wasn't a "yes person" who would just go along with consensus. Happened on several occasions. Successful company in its day and on can see why. Good people who would pursue good ideas and not be distracted when somebody questioned them.

Ian

To be fair, I would quite like to see a bit more of this, without the borderline bullying of course!
 
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Psamathe

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To be fair, I would quite like to see a bit more of this, without the borderline bullying of course!
I never felt I was being "bullied". But said CEO was deliberately coming across as aggressive to ensure I would stand-up for myself and not be intimidated by "seniority". He was actually a fair reasonable person but to be all soft and gentle would not have put me under pressure which was part of the "tests" (happened on more than one occasion).

In business you invariably have "disagreements" with customers & suppliers and if you cave at the first sign of trouble then your business will suffer. If you believe you are right then stick to your guns eg one customer (a massive company) had a "challenging" meeting with and I had to end with "then I guess your lawyers had better start talking to our lawyers" (their project manager was quickly move to a different project).

Ian
 

icowden

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Well, the VAT on school fees didn't go down well in all quarters.
True. I'm against badly planned tax rises based on vindictiveness rather than any empirical research and where the most affected people are children.

Call me old fashioned, but I'm against penalising children to make a political point.
 

CXRAndy

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Rachel from accounts to force pension providers to invest a portion of their customer investments in the UK. Thus reducing the value of retirees pensions

Super smart - Not
 

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icowden

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Ian H

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The adults in the room

Every election in Europe these days seems to put a moderate politician advocating mostly sensible ideas against a rabble-rousing populist with a bombastic dislike of migrants, gays and the European Union. The centrist usually wins, but the margins are dwindling. Is Europe thus destined to drift into reactionary dysfunction, one electoral setback at a time? Not so fast. Powerful with as they may seem, Europe's firebrand nationalists - even when they seize high office - are merely the meat in a liberal sandwich. Above them are EU wallahs, always on hand to police budget deficits and adhesion to the rule of law. Below the populists is a layer of pragmatic politicos who keep the day-to-day machinery of government on the road (and the roads free of potholes). Europe's mayor's, particularly those of big cities, are the unsung moderating force of the continent's politics...

[The Economist]
 
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Stevo 666

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This is going to blow your mind, but the Police have to manage civil unrest. You won't believe it but there are racist morons out there who will start rioting and blaming skin colour / religion as soon as they hear a name that doesn't sound western or see skin that isn't white.

Thus it makes sense to name the chap who ran over pedestrians but not Axel Rudacana.

I get your point, although now that they have done this the police are in the uneviable position that if there is a future incident of this type where the suspect is of an ethnicity/nationality that might cause civil unrest and they don't release details of the suspect's ethnicity/nationality, then people will make the obvious assumption.
 
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