Starmer's vision quest

[bobzmyunkle]

Keep your head in the sand and keep ignoring the mounting evidence.

To have mounting evidence you'd need...
mounting evidence. So far you seem to have one dubious source and someone's opinion.
Oh, and your own belief that you're right.
Maybe we could have a survey of NACA members.
1. Do you qualify as a dollar millionaire, as defined up thread?
2. Have you left the country?
3. Did you leave due to Rachel's tax plans?

You first @Stevo 666.

 

[CXRAndy]

Starmer faked another clip


View: https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1942485812957807077?t=YTmham6jjTAOglU1RhI8Vg&s=19

 

[Stevo 666]

It's almost as if they have been farked over for 17 years.
In 2008 a Junior Doctor's salary was £32,082 rising to £35,790. In 2025 a Junior Doctor's salary is £36,616 rising to £42,008.

£32082 in 2008 would be £52,408 today rising to £58,465.48

That's a difference in pay of £16,000 per annum. We need doctors. It's a highly skilled job. We should be paying them properly.
Now to be fair, it does look like the BMA have jumped the gun as the the 2025/2026 pay deal will see average basic pay for a resident doctor reaching £54,300 in 2025-26, but that is for a 3rd year (CT1-2 banded student)

Not really, no. When you add in final salary pensions and the future earnings as a more senior doctor or GP it's a pretty decent career. I know a few doctors and none are poor.

Hard line union leaders appear to be part of the problem.

 

[Stevo 666]

To have mounting evidence you'd need...
mounting evidence. So far you seem to have one dubious source and someone's opinion.
Oh, and your own belief that you're right.
Maybe we could have a survey of NACA members.
1. Do you qualify as a dollar millionaire, as defined up thread?
2. Have you left the country?
3. Did you leave due to Rachel's tax plans?

You first @Stevo 666.

Not sure how many people would fall into the wealthy category in here given the amount of leftie whining.

I've asked other before and got no reply, so care to post some counter evidence?

 

[HMS_Dave]

Yeah the numbers are the numbers, but going on strike just after you e agreed a pay deal is fairly idiotic. They won't win, they shouldn't win. Pay has eroded, yes, but they aren't unique in that. Mine has too. I think I'll go ask my boss for a 30% rise.

Works great for London's tube drivers though. Shift work yes, but 70k a year, free travel, 36 hour working weeks, 43 days holiday and even a pension at 50!? Not a lot beats that. Lottery win perhaps.

Maybe it's time to get the drivers to send you a cover letter template to send to your boss. Or dig up some dirt on your boss, that'll also have a reasonable chance of success...

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Not sure how many people would fall into the wealthy category in here given the amount of leftie whining.

Non sequitur there @Stevo 666. Apologies for the foreign words.

I've asked other before and got no reply, so care to post some counter evidence?

You're not really aware of how debate works, are you.

 

[CXRAndy]

What a surprise

Macron blames UK government for migrant crisis.

Reason. Eliminate the pull factors

Macron has got a 👉Starmer?

 

[First Aspect]

Works great for London's tube drivers though. Shift work yes, but 70k a year, free travel, 36 hour working weeks, 43 days holiday and even a pension at 50!? Not a lot beats that. Lottery win perhaps.

Maybe it's time to get the drivers to send you a cover letter template to send to your boss. Or dig up some dirt on your boss, that'll also have a reasonable chance of success...

I'll give it a try. But changing jobs is the more conventional approach.

 

[BoldonLad]

We may or may not be leaking millionaires, but, it would appear we are leaking Companies from LSE Action urged to halt exodus of firms leaving UK https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz6g85qp0p6o

 

[CXRAndy]

We may or may not be leaking millionaires, but, it would appear we are leaking Companies from LSE Action urged to halt exodus of firms leaving UK https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz6g85qp0p6o

So company exodus is real but millionaire flight isn't?

Individuals are far more flexible in location than big companies. If big companies can see the benefits of leaving the UK, so can millionaires

 

[CXRAndy]

Government for calling illegal migration 'irregular migration', in hopes it would 'stop people talking about it'.

"It's not bloody irregular - it's illegal! Planks! This is a woke, ridiculous, Lefty phrase... what's wrong with them?!"

 

[Psamathe]

Heard this from a few sources so tryed searching to verify as to it further highlights UK Government's complicity in Israeli atrocities.

Govt warns UK lawyers not to advise ICC in Israeli war crimes cases – or face sanctions
Instead of fighting for UK citizens against Trump’s mafia-like threats, Starmer’s govt acts as his messenger boys

In February, Trump threatened sanctions against anyone supporting the ICC against Israel. Now, instead of fighting the Trump regime over its attack on lawyers working for justice under international law, the Starmer government is acting as Trump’s messenger boy to pass on the mafia-like threat intended to cow and deter advocates for justice and an end to Israel’s genocide and war crimes against innocent Palestinians.

And UK Government made no comment about this, maybe God forbid we should say anything President of Northern Mexico might not like.

UK still training IDF soldiers, RAF still flying over Gaza providing intelligence, etc. Starmer still won't call what most of the world considers "war crimes" only 6% of countries (which includes UK) saying it's not Genocide. Why is Starmer saying it's not Genocide before ICC has rules - he's a lawyers deciding court outcomes before court has heard the case.

Ian

 

[icowden]

We may or may not be leaking millionaires, but, it would appear we are leaking Companies from LSE Action urged to halt exodus of firms leaving UK https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz6g85qp0p6o

If only there were some sort of major group of countries that we could join with to have say free movement of employees, tariff free trade etc. Surely that would encourage those companies to stay instead of moving to a country which has the benefit of free movement of employees to 26 other countries along with tariff free trade to those countries...

Still, it's probably all about taxes...

 

[briantrumpet]

If only there were some sort of major group of countries that we could join with to have say free movement of employees, tariff free trade etc. Surely that would encourage those companies to stay instead of moving to a country which has the benefit of free movement of employees to 26 other countries along with tariff free trade to those countries...

Still, it's probably all about taxes...

Just imagine if we'd been in that sweet spot acting as a trustworthy 'bridge' between the US & Japan on one side, and the EU on the other...

 

[BoldonLad]

If only there were some sort of major group of countries that we could join with to have say free movement of employees, tariff free trade etc. Surely that would encourage those companies to stay instead of moving to a country which has the benefit of free movement of employees to 26 other countries along with tariff free trade to those countries...

Still, it's probably all about taxes...

Quite, as a Remain voter, I 100% agree. Not sure why you are bringing Taxes into it, I never mentioned taxes.