Starmer's vision quest

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BoldonLad

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Don't even need to have a Deputy PM.

True.

My only comment was that, if they have polled all c300,000 Labour Party members, as I thought was necessary (perhaps incorrectly) then, they have been very competent.

If only they could bring that level of competence to Government.
 
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Stevo 666

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A couple of days ago it was the wrong type of company, today it's the wrong type of country.

Different issue, but I really shouldn't have to explain that :rolleyes:
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
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Didn't know this about Lammykins
 

CXRAndy

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Starmers
Island of strangers speech has spectacularly backfired

Survey of 30,000 found he lost labour voters and gained none elsewhere

Newstatesman

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CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Pensioners pull £18bn in tax free lump sums in unprecedented numbers before RFA raids their pensions.

Historically around £8bn per year was taken in tax free lump sums

O dear Rachel

Those who can afford to wait will sit it out till this labour party is ejected from governance
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Met chief says change law to stop online comment arrests.

Funny how you dont bother with crimes, like burglary, muggings, stabbings, rapes-but hurty words, round there double quick
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Starmers
Island of strangers speech has spectacularly backfired

Survey of 30,000 found he lost labour voters and gained none elsewhere

Newstatesman

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That's because for some reason (likely one called McSweeney) he's frantic to court the Reform binburner vote, and doesn't care in the slightest who he alienates & disgusts in his desperation to gain the support of the worst & most hateful slobbering, racist scumbag cünts in the UK.

As I may have mentioned, the people whose votes he values above any others would sooner hack their genitals off with a rusty tin can lid than ever vote Labour. Wouldn't you?
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
Also McSweeney seems to be quite politically astute (otherwise he wouldn't be in the job) and can see which way the wind is blowing with the electorate on matters such as immigration.
 

Psamathe

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Also McSweeney seems to be quite politically astute (otherwise he wouldn't be in the job) and can see which way the wind is blowing with the electorate on matters such as immigration.
Or did Labour allow the "wind to blow" that way to distract from other bigger challenges they were failing to resolve? Through the recent weeks with people shouting at hotels and Reform/Farangë plastered over Page 1 and BBC Labour had all but disappeared, no push back. It's like Labour were allowing it all to happen.
 
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icowden

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Also McSweeney seems to be quite politically astute (otherwise he wouldn't be in the job) and can see which way the wind is blowing with the electorate on matters such as immigration.
Hard to see how he could see that. The "opinion" on immigration is being provided by newspapers owned by Billionaires, Farage and his shoot stirrers and small pockets of racist xenophobes on twitter / X.

I doubt anyone has properly polled people for their opinion.

Maybe, instead of trying to react to every tweet on social media and every criticism from a Tory or Reform Politician, it might be better to actually have a party policy and stick to it.
 

Psamathe

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Hard to see how he could see that. The "opinion" on immigration is being provided by newspapers owned by Billionaires, Farage and his shoot stirrers and small pockets of racist xenophobes on twitter / X.

I doubt anyone has properly polled people for their opinion.

Maybe, instead of trying to react to every tweet on social media and every criticism from a Tory or Reform Politician, it might be better to actually have a party policy and stick to it.
Agree. Just look at the real number of people outside hotels vs eg the number of people getting arrested for terrorist offences just this weekend.
 

Pross

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Also McSweeney seems to be quite politically astute (otherwise he wouldn't be in the job) and can see which way the wind is blowing with the electorate on matters such as immigration.

If so it highlights the problem in politics. There's no point in political parties if they all just make policy based on whichever way the wind is blowing rather than standing for particular values they believe are important and trying to convince the electorate they are right.
 
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