Starmer's vision quest

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icowden

Shaman
Evidence for that?

He moved his personal wealth to Monaco 4 years ago as a thanks for his knighthood for services to business an investment. Ineos has been building up unsustainable debt - Fitch and Moody sounded the alarm earlier this year. He has E10,6Bn of debt at the end of last year. Sure Ineos is valued at E55bn, but demand for oil is decreasing. The US is far more unstable than the UK thanks to Trump - but they LOVE oil.
https://archive.is/cYmAt

The UK is interested in renewables and nuclear and for Ratcliffe to pretend to care a fig about the UK is nonsense.
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
Judging by friends who used to rent off my other half, and who between them earned around £150000pa, quite a lot. They had to move out to Basingstoke to find an affordable house.

Quite, so if the RMT demands are aimed at getting their members a salary that will allow them to buy a house in London, they're not exactly being realistic. Even by junior doctor standards, a hike of over 100% is a just a little bit on the high side....
 

CXRAndy

Squire
Merck, pharma giant has withdrawn £1bn research centre in the UK, citing

“not internationally competitive”.

125 scientists have been laid off plus associated support staff
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
He moved his personal wealth to Monaco 4 years ago as a thanks for his knighthood for services to business an investment. Ineos has been building up unsustainable debt - Fitch and Moody sounded the alarm earlier this year. He has E10,6Bn of debt at the end of last year. Sure Ineos is valued at E55bn, but demand for oil is decreasing. The US is far more unstable than the UK thanks to Trump - but they LOVE oil.
https://archive.is/cYmAt

The UK is interested in renewables and nuclear and for Ratcliffe to pretend to care a fig about the UK is nonsense.

So that's evidence of him moving funds to Monaco: I was asking for evidence that he was moving funds to the US regardless of what Labour have done. And not sure what the relevance of the rest of your post is.
 

icowden

Shaman
So that's evidence of him moving funds to Monaco: I was asking for evidence that he was moving funds to the US regardless of what Labour have done. And not sure what the relevance of the rest of your post is.
How to say "I didn't read the article you linked" without saying "I didn't read the article"
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
If ever there was evidence that there are constituencies where the electorate will vote for a donkey (or a monkey), if it is wearing the appropriate rosette, that has to be it. IMHO. 😂

True. Although my old stamping ground (Redcar) elected a Tory MP back in 2019. I nearly fell off my seat when I heard that 😀
 

icowden

Shaman
Judging by friends who used to rent off my other half, and who between them earned around £150000pa, quite a lot. They had to move out to Basingstoke to find an affordable house.

The average terraced house in London costs £750,000 or thereabouts. A first time buyer would need a salary of £150k assuming minimal deposit. That said you can get a 2 or 3 bed in Edmonton, E6 or Plumstead for around £360k. Mitcham and Sutton not much more expensive. If, on the other hand you want to live somewhere posh like Wimbledon or Southfields you'll be looking at £600k at least.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
That's why I said 'apparently'. RTFQ, as they say ;)

I deliberately ignored the weasel word 'apparently'.
 

Psamathe

Veteran
Good summary of Starmer's judgement on Mandleson in the Guardian:
If only there had been some kind of clue. The tiniest of hints that Peter Mandelson might not have been a suitable candidate to act as the UK ambassador in Washington.

Like being forced to resign from the cabinet over a failure to disclose a loan from Geoffrey Robinson. Like being forced to resign from the cabinet a second time over allegations of trying to procure a passport for the Hinduja brothers. Like his financial arrangements with the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Like his friendship with the convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

But no. Keir Starmer and the civil service vetting committee apparently looked at all this and thought: “You know what? That’s just what we need.
(from https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-back-as-junior-ministers-take-the-mandy-flak)
 

spen666

Über Member
The average terraced house in London costs £750,000 or thereabouts. A first time buyer would need a salary of £150k assuming minimal deposit. That said you can get a 2 or 3 bed in Edmonton, E6 or Plumstead for around £360k. Mitcham and Sutton not much more expensive. If, on the other hand you want to live somewhere posh like Wimbledon or Southfields you'll be looking at £600k at least.

move out East and get a flat in Barking & Dagenham for circa £150,000
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
As I understand it he's still a member of the House of Lords. So unsuitable to be an Ambassador but fine to be a key part of our Westminster legislature.

Is there a method to remove his membership of the House of Lords? Perhaps we could remove a few more "doubtful" at the same time, or, better still, remove all of the unelected Lords etc
 
Is there a method to remove his membership of the House of Lords? Perhaps we could remove a few more "doubtful" at the same time, or, better still, remove all of the unelected Lords etc

There has been a lengthy HoL reform bill going through Parliament since last year. All of the proposed (and correct IMO) amendments to get rid of hereditary peerage, reduce the size of the House, end Prime Ministerial patronage etc. have all been voted down.
 
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