Starmer's vision quest

[BoldonLad]

The NEC needs to decide because it is hugely expensive to run a by-election and a mayoral campaign, in this case.

On your point about the whip system, Burnham stepped away from Westminster exactly because if this point. He has been highly critical of the way parliament is run. Who knows he may get an opportunity to change it.

I. admire your optimism.

IF he becomes Leader/PM why would he change it?, easy to be critical from the sidelines.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I. admire your optimism.

IF he becomes Leader/PM why would he change it?, easy to be critical from the sidelines.

I said “Who knows he may get an opportunity to change it.”

You read optimism.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Next stage in the debate please
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...om-byelection-race-by-labour-ruling-committee

 

[Stevo 666]

Let the fighting commence ...

 

[Xipe Totec]

That's not the case - Labour are far too right wing for some people 🙂

He's surprisingly perceptive for a half-jackal, isn't he?

 

[secretsqirrel]

Next stage in the debate please
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...om-byelection-race-by-labour-ruling-committee

I think that is the best decision.

Burnham will get his chance another time.

 

[TailWindHome]

There's a reasonable argument that he should complete his term as mayor but welcome to run in 2028 or in the 2029 GE

 

[Psamathe]

Next stage in the debate please
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...om-byelection-race-by-labour-ruling-committee

Daft decision by NEC - the vast majority of the electorate don't like Starmer (just look at his ratings) and NEC's decision will be seen as closing ranks around protecting Starmer from challenge.

 

[Psamathe]

There's a reasonable argument that he should complete his term as mayor but welcome to run in 2028 or in the 2029 GE

He could stand down at any time and there would be an election. He could stand down to write his memoires or to join the lecture circuit, etc. and then NEC would not have the same block.

They might chose decide the local Party and electorate should not get to decide but that would reflect pretty badly on the concept of "democracy".

 

[Pross]

Daft decision by NEC - the vast majority of the electorate don't like Starmer (just look at his ratings) and NEC's decision will be seen as closing ranks around protecting Starmer from challenge.

The NEC’s decision IS closing ranks to protect Starmer.

 

[CXRAndy]

Now starmer will be hated from inside and outside the party

 

[First Aspect]

There's a reasonable argument that he should complete his term as mayor but welcome to run in 2028 or in the 2029 GE

Indeed, or at the very least get much closer to the end of that term, rather than 20 months into the 48.

 

[briantrumpet]

The NEC’s decision IS closing ranks to protect Starmer.

I'm sure that's the primary aim, but it would also be a disaster if they also lost the constituency with Burnham as candidate and the vacant Manchester mayoralty to Reform, given Labour's unpopularity at present.

 

[C R]

I'm sure that's the primary aim, but it would also be a disaster if they also lost the constituency with Burnham as candidate and the vacant Manchester mayoralty to Reform, given Labour's unpopularity at present.

I think Burnham shot himself in the foot by trying to run, and dealt further damage to Labour unnecessarily.

 

[Stevo 666]

He's surprisingly perceptive for a half-jackal, isn't he?

What a coincidence that I mention that and up you pop