Starmer's vision quest

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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Not always, just sometimes. But well done for trying to be patronising, a spot of inverse snobbery always brightens up a dull Monday 😉

Oh look - that even got a laugh from Andy The Cunt! It must be nice to get some audience validation, I guess.

Even if he has no more idea what the hell you're wanking on about than you do!
 
So twice as long as Starmer. Not a looking good for The Stalek.
Well your maths isn't great, because Bungle was (i) actually out of office by then and (ii) it was less than 3 years.

If Burnham were to be in Westminster again I think it would take at least a year for him to be in a position to challenge. So it is touch and go already to beat Bungle's record.

As others have pointed out, Burnham has shot himself in the foot by appearing duplicitous and opportunistic. He has also tried and failed to be leader twice already.

So I think the media is looking in the wrong place for the first leadership challenge, and it will be from within the current PLP.
 
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TailWindHome

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Well your maths isn't great, because Bungle was (i) actually out of office by then and (ii) it was less than 3 years.

If Burnham were to be in Westminster again I think it would take at least a year for him to be in a position to challenge. So it is touch and go already to beat Bungle's record.

As others have pointed out, Burnham has shot himself in the foot by appearing duplicitous and opportunistic. He has also tried and failed to be leader twice already.

So I think the media is looking in the wrong place for the first leadership challenge, and it will be from within the current PLP.

I'd suggest the Boris comparison is 2 years 1 month from Dec 2019 to Jan 2022

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Stevo 666

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Well your maths isn't great, because Bungle was (i) actually out of office by then and (ii) it was less than 3 years.

If Burnham were to be in Westminster again I think it would take at least a year for him to be in a position to challenge. So it is touch and go already to beat Bungle's record.

As others have pointed out, Burnham has shot himself in the foot by appearing duplicitous and opportunistic. He has also tried and failed to be leader twice already.

So I think the media is looking in the wrong place for the first leadership challenge, and it will be from within the current PLP.

You said 3 years...

Although true, Burnham couldn't even beat Corbyn so we are taking leftie loser here. Streeting and Rayner are the likely challengers, but suspect they will wait and choose their time.
 

Stevo 666

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Yeah but they appeared to have some very good equality policy where any MP who wanted a go at being PM was given a chance. It should be admired, even Truss was given her chance.

Judging by the quality of Labour hopefuls, they seem to be operating a similar policy.
 
As Stevo regularly reminded us over on CS when Johnson was fucking everything up, he still had an 80-ish seat majority.

Labour's is now down to 168, with an election in 2029.
 
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bobzmyunkle

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As Stevo regularly reminded us over on CS when Johnson was fucking everything up, he still had an 80-ish seat majority.

Labour's is now down to 168, with an election in 2029.

I said earlier @Stevo 666 is probably as intelligent as me and the other leftie bollox members think he is. I take that back.
I used to be able to see the best in people, believe in a brighter future. These people are robbing me of all hope.
 
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Psamathe

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Streeting and Rayner are the likely challengers, but suspect they will wait and choose their time.
I think Streeting would need to separate himself from Starmer a bit/lot. His current main strength seems to be more of the same but with a bit more charisma (although I don't admire his competence much - he's got some big stuff wrong that lucky for him wasn't widely reported).

Rayner at least would have a new somewhat more Labour policies (though doesn't properly look at or just ignored unintended consequences.

Personally I don't think either would make a good party leader.
 
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