Starmer's vision quest

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CXRAndy

Pharaoh
 

Stevo 666

Veteran
I think Streeting would need to separate himself from Starmer a bit/lot. His current main strength seems to be more of the same but with a bit more charisma (although I don't admire his competence much - he's got some big stuff wrong that lucky for him wasn't widely reported).

Rayner at least would have a new somewhat more Labour policies (though doesn't properly look at or just ignored unintended consequences.

Personally I don't think either would make a good party leader.

Agree, neither would make a good leader, but Streeting is probably closer to being the continuity candidate. He will probably wait until after a proper scrap has started and it looks like Starmer is finished, so as not to appear too disloyal. Rayner doesn't really bear thinking about.
 

CXRAndy

Pharaoh
So is this why lefties are all angry and miserable?

Lefties liberals are all overly emotional to everyone's else outrage/predicament.

They scream, rant, insult, threaten violence, then are violent, when all else fails.

Obviously there are some that just slope off, sob in the corner, bitch about how the world hates them, it's ruining their lives- when actually it's them who are destroying themselves

:okay:
 

Psamathe

Guru
Interesting that only 28 Councils requested their elections be delayed yet 29 elections have been delayed.

Norfolk County Council elections were due in 2025 but Gov. delayed them until 2026. This year the council leader did not request a delay yet Gov. has delayed the elections for a 2nd time in a row.

In unrelated news Labour are projected to lose every Councillor in the forthcoming (or not forthcoming) 2026 County Council elections ...
 
An interesting counter-factual is where Labour would have been had McSweeney not 'ousted' Sue Gray early on after the election. My suspicion is that they wouldn't have been chasing the Reform vote so relentlessly. That said, IIRC, they made the same type of political missteps (not having ready-to-go policies that had been thoroughly mapped out presentationally), so she did leave herself open to challenge.
 

Stevo 666

Veteran
But…..but…. you post about her more than anyone else

You do know what a warning is, right? :smile:
 
But…..but…. you post about her more than anyone else

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Psamathe

Guru
An interesting counter-factual is where Labour would have been had McSweeney not 'ousted' Sue Gray early on after the election. My suspicion is that they wouldn't have been chasing the Reform vote so relentlessly. That said, IIRC, they made the same type of political missteps (not having ready-to-go policies that had been thoroughly mapped out presentationally), so she did leave herself open to challenge.
Whilst I don't know what she's been doing since McSweeny ousted her, I suspect she's well out of the mess certainly long term.

These prominent unelected leaders (the Cummings, McSweeny) are one horse wonders and one thing is 100% certain is that their reign will end max. duration being that of the leader which is max. 5 years these days. After that the puppet can get Non-Exec directorships, lucrative speaking circuit whereas unelected puppet-masters become limited to some obscure Thinktank at best (which is no more that a sort of "we feel sorry for you" shorter term generosity). Maybe start a podcast, maybe SubStack or TikTok but severly limited.
 

Psamathe

Guru
From a different thread: (but discussion more relevant here)
Ground rent cap for leaseholders?
I wonder how this £250/yr will work for existing leasholds where the groundrent is already above that threshold. Existing leasholds were established on a given financial bases eg lower purchase cost for higher ground rent. So so retrospectively in effect void that contract would seem unreasonable on the leaseholder.

In effect it would be a retrospective change for some leases.
 
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PurplePenguin

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From a different thread: (but discussion more relevant here)

I wonder how this £250/yr will work for existing leasholds where the groundrent is already above that threshold. Existing leasholds were established on a given financial bases eg lower purchase cost for higher ground rent. So so retrospectively in effect void that contract would seem unreasonable on the leaseholder.

In effect it would be a retrospective change for some leases.

That's the proposal and some freeholders will make a loss.
 
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