Starmer's vision quest

[C R]

Just to confirm the futility of trying to outreform reform

As many of us have said, labour is not losing voters to reform.

 

[CXRAndy]

Anyhow, it’s been announced that the murder rate in the UK is the lowest recorded for almost 50 years.

499 murders

Compared to over 200,000 sexual offences last year up 11% from previous years, attributable to mass immigration.

Countries that dont allow mass migration massively safer than UK for sex offences.

UK............117 per 100,000
Hungary..5.5 per 100,000
Poland....1.3 per 100,000

 

[Pblakeney]

He's probably expecting Donald to send a "beautiful armada" to attack the UK for daring to rule about what happens in the UK

More likely a "beautiful Amanda". 😉

 

[icowden]

More likely a "beautiful Amanda". 😉

Tut.
It would be a "bigly beautiful Amanda - so hot, almost as hot as my daughter..." and you now it...

 

[CXRAndy]

Kowtow Keir in China

 

[Stevo 666]

I can’t see what he’s posted, but is our village idiot banging on about freedom of speech again?

I am not sure how our resident racist will process the latest piece of news, given he thinks Somali murder squads are going around, killing us in our beds.
Anyhow, it’s been announced that the murder rate in the UK is the lowest recorded for almost 50 years.

So you put him on ignore and are now asking other people what he's posting?

 

[BoldonLad]

He's probably expecting Donald to send a "beautiful armada" to attack the UK for daring to rule about what happens in the UK

I wouldn’t joke about that 😂

 

[spen666]

I wouldn’t joke about that 😂

I wasn't joking

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2017141983576543726

 

[Psamathe]

These days I'm increasingly critical of Starmer but I should comment that I regard his visit to China as the right thing to do at this time. It's a shame he didn't achieve more (Visa-free travel is just something most other countries have had for several years eg Fr, De, Nl, etc.). That said I think such visits are not "transactional" so not coming away with much really isn't the issue, more long term strategic and demonstrating a direction.

I do worry about China's human rights record, etc. but then look at how much trade we are doing with places shooting innocent civilians in the street these days. So lots of "I'm unhappy about, unsure about ..." but still right for Starmer to have made the trip.

 

[briantrumpet]

These days I'm increasingly critical of Starmer but I should comment that I regard his visit to China as the right thing to do at this time. It's a shame he didn't achieve more (Visa-free travel is just something most other countries have had for several years eg Fr, De, Nl, etc.). That said I think such visits are not "transactional" so not coming away with much really isn't the issue, more long term strategic and demonstrating a direction.

I do worry about China's human rights record, etc. but then look at how much trade we are doing with places shooting innocent civilians in the street these days. So lots of "I'm unhappy about, unsure about ..." but still right for Starmer to have made the trip.

I think with China it's a case of recognising both its problems but not being able to ignore its increasing status as a political and economic giant. Let's not forget that we supposedly had a 'special relationship' with America despite all its warmongering around the world, and are still trying to preserve a working relationship with it despite its descent into Fascism.

 

[Pblakeney]

I think with China it's a case of recognising both its problems but not being able to ignore its increasing status as a political and economic giant. Let's not forget that we supposedly had a 'special relationship' with America despite all its warmongering around the world, and are still trying to preserve a working relationship with it despite its descent into Fascism.

...and who are quite happy to threaten us.

 

[briantrumpet]

...and who are quite happy to threaten us.

I guess that China does too, but much more subtly. But at least they are still looking for growth and an international stage, rather than retreating back to the 1950s (or 1930s Germany). At the moment, especially given their capacity to get growth through the expansion of green electricity infrastructure (amongst other things), they are playing a blinder: it's not the insular communism of Russia's empire (which needing shielding from the West and capitalism), rather they seem to be harnessing the driving forces of capitalism but within a highly top-down single-party government structure.

 

[briantrumpet]

As I've mentioned before, I was blown away by the stat cited in the BBC programme 'Beyond The Clouds' that China has one million villages, and despite that manages to have communist party oversight even of all the villages to some extent (e.g. the one-child-per-family law that's since been abolished).

Incidentally, I'd love to get a DVD of that series, as it was incredibly beautiful, as well as being really interesting. But I've never seen it for sale anywhere, which is a pity.

 

[Pblakeney]

I guess that China does too, but much more subtly. But at least they are still looking for growth and an international stage, rather than retreating back to the 1950s (or 1930s Germany). At the moment, especially given their capacity to get growth through the expansion of green electricity infrastructure (amongst other things), they are playing a blinder: it's not the insular communism of Russia's empire (which needing shielding from the West and capitalism), rather they seem to be harnessing the driving forces of capitalism but within a highly top-down single-party government structure.

Oh, I do not doubt that China is trying to control/rule the World for one second.
They are doing it using capitalism (ironically) instead of weapons.