Starmer's vision quest

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Psamathe

Guru
From Guardian House of Lords should strip Mandelson of peerage, says Starmer
Maybe he should also be launching an inquiry as to how he became Ambassador to the US despite his involvement with Epstein being common knowledge.
 

laurentian

Regular
From Guardian House of Lords should strip Mandelson of peerage, says Starmer
Maybe he should also be launching an inquiry as to how he became Ambassador to the US despite his involvement with Epstein being common knowledge.

The cynic in me thinks that the cynic in Starmer may have known about Mandleson and Epstein and also known that Trump and Epstein had history . . . this would perhaps give Mandleson some leverage over Trump . . .
 

secretsqirrel

Senior Member
The cynic in me thinks that the cynic in Starmer may have known about Mandleson and Epstein and also known that Trump and Epstein had history . . . this would perhaps give Mandleson some leverage over Trump . . .

It was undoubtedly a political appointment probably based on Mandelson knowing how to handle Trump with the Epstein connection a known. But the depth of the sleaze would not have been known at the time.
 

CXRAndy

Pharaoh
Doctors vote to strike again
 

Psamathe

Guru
Maybe the first most urgent thing for a Mandleson inquiry to establish is to find the fool who appointed him to the US Ambassadorship. Clearly such an incompetent has no idea of the concept of "due diligence" even when it's common knowledge about alarm bells yet still he got the job. Maybe there are others appointed to senior positions trying to avoid scrutiny for "who knows what" (and the appointer almost certainly doesn't "know what")
 

CXRAndy

Pharaoh
Doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Who is the head of government, buck ultimately stops with them.

Blissful/wishful ignorance of the government to ignore security background briefing on Mandleson
 

icowden

Shaman
Maybe the first most urgent thing for a Mandleson inquiry to establish is to find the fool who appointed him to the US Ambassadorship.
Why? It was an ideal appointment if you stop and think about it. You need an ambassador that has moved in the same circles, that can schmooze and stroke egos, that knows where the bodies are buried.

If Starmers had had any balls, he'd have ignored the naysayers and pointed out that Mandy was the perfect choice.

Ambassadors are not there to win purity prizes they are there to represent our interests and further our goals in whatever way that takes.
 

Psamathe

Guru
Why? It was an ideal appointment if you stop and think about it. You need an ambassador that has moved in the same circles, that can schmooze and stroke egos, that knows where the bodies are buried.

If Starmers had had any balls, he'd have ignored the naysayers and pointed out that Mandy was the perfect choice.

Ambassadors are not there to win purity prizes they are there to represent our interests and further our goals in whatever way that takes.
Because we clearly cannot trust him to act in tbe best interests of the UK. Whilst a in Government passing privileged information to 3rd parties whilst receiving money from those 3rd parties. That's acting for personal gain to the detriment of the UK.
 
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