Starmer's vision quest

[CXRAndy]

There's no 'trying' involved.

Farage read the deal, gave it the thumbs up and stood down the candidates

Now if you are arguing that he'd have done something different since then, that's fine, just outline what he'd have done differently

But, 'Farage didn't do the deal' is weak sauce

(Same for Starmer as it - who voted *for* the deal)

Starmer was an MP.

Farage was just a civilian in the UK. No power to influence the negotiations

 

[icowden]

Still didn't do any negotiations or sign any deal. You can try as much as you like. Farage didn't do the deal.
All he did was start the ball rolling towards a referendum

You misspelled "embarked on a massive campaign of misinformation to cause the referendum to go the way he wanted it after using misinformation to persuade Cameron to have a referendum in the first place"

 

[CXRAndy]

That was Cameron's fault.

 

[TailWindHome]

Starmer was an MP.

Farage was just a civilian in the UK. No power to influence the negotiations

He was content with the result of those negotiations

Note - Starmer wasn't involved in the negotiations either

 

[TailWindHome]

Maybe more constructive to ask which bit of the deal he's going to change?

 

[Bromptonaut]

The idea that Farage had the same influence as me, just a civilian in the UK, is laughable.

 

[CXRAndy]

Maybe more constructive to ask which bit of the deal he's going to change?

Don't know, send him an email

 

[CXRAndy]

The idea that Farage had the same influence as me, just a civilian in the UK, is laughable.

Well you don't really believe in the democratic process, one man one vote

 

[TailWindHome]

Don't know, send him an email

You've spent the morning telling everyone how Farage didn't do the deal, but have no idea what part(s) of the deal Farage wants to change

I assume there's no twitter slop to repost on the topic?

 

[spen666]

You misspelled "embarked on a massive campaign of misinformation to cause the referendum to go the way he wanted it after using misinformation to persuade Cameron to have a referendum in the first place"

because of course the Remain campaign told 100% truth about everything?

Still waiting for the Emergency Budget we were told would have to happen immediately after any leave vote


Its funny how people remember things the other side did but fail to accept the things their own side did

 

[CXRAndy]

Its seems the liberal left hold onto a grudge

 

[Stevo 666]

Its seems the liberal left hold onto a grudge

Only the one?

 

[icowden]

because of course the Remain campaign told 100% truth about everything?

I think if you were to list out the claims made by both sides, that far more of the Remain campaign's claims have been proven.

 

[TailWindHome]

Its seems the liberal left hold onto a grudge

You're the one complaining the Tories f cked it up (though you're not quite sure how)

 

[CXRAndy]

Im not complaining they flooded up. Im acknowledging they did.