midlandsgrimpeur
Senior Member
"Democrats should pay attention". I thought they already had, hence their ongoing political absence!
Starmer's vision quest
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"Democrats should pay attention". I thought they already had, hence their ongoing political absence!
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Well, we did try telling you. Bit late now.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
It is all a cunning plan to let Reform councils cock up bin collections and potholes for 2 years, before the next important vote.
C R
Legendary Member
They've been doing that in Worcestershire, as well as providing the highest council tax increase in the country, for the last year. Kent are no better. Let's see if the electorate are as perceptive as you hope.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Psamathe
Legendary Member
My guess is we'll yet again hear from Labour big beasts how Starmer needs to present a vision, to explain what he's about, what he stands for.
It's said every time the leadership issue gets onto the front pages and nothing changes.
And those whose senior ministerial posts depend entirely on Starmer will again tell us how at a time of international instability we shouldn't be changing leader (with no explanation as to why a change would affect the international instability).
It's said every time the leadership issue gets onto the front pages and nothing changes.
And those whose senior ministerial posts depend entirely on Starmer will again tell us how at a time of international instability we shouldn't be changing leader (with no explanation as to why a change would affect the international instability).
briantrumpet
Timewaster
From early results, hard to see how Starmer survives: Reform taking just about everything going from Labour. I can't see one ounce of anything for them to cling to for optimism. As predicted, they've haemorrhaged votes to both Reform and the Greens.
C R
Legendary Member
So the pigs seem unable to take off. The electorate have learnt nothing from the shitshow in Kent, Worcestershire or the US.
Pblakeney
Squire
Latest results have Reform ahead as predicted but Labour are still second.
Lib-Dems third and Conservatives fourth. Greens are way, way back off the scale. Reads like Reform have the biggest share, then a 3 way split.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Interesting - Labour has lost overall control of Exeter, losing five seats, but Reform only gained 2. Probably not a bad outcome.
Dorset Boy
Well-Known Member
Sounds like a good night for reform.
An ok but disappointing night for the greens
An OK night for the Lib Dems
A mixed night for the Conservatives
The predictable poor night for Labour
An ok but disappointing night for the greens
An OK night for the Lib Dems
A mixed night for the Conservatives
The predictable poor night for Labour
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Looks like most of their 'lost' votes went to the Greens - probably not surprising given the number of students at the university.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
I think the thing to watch will be whether Starmer tries to cling on, and if he does, whether he does anything more than pay lip service to changing course, as pretty much exactly as predicted he's lost more seats to the Greens than Reform. My take would be that he's utterly squandered the advantage of his massive parliamentary majority in fighting on Reform's agenda rather than setting out a positive progressive agenda and ignoring Reform's noise until now.
