Starmer's vision quest

[First Aspect]

Not convinced of that, for anyone with a political ego being PM will be more attractive than being a city mayor. Especially if they have a saviour complex. That said, I think there's too much risk in actually getting voted in - I don't think any seat is worth the gamble either for him or for Labour potentially freeing up a seat to lose to Reform. Unless a seat becomes vacant naturally then he'd be stupid to push the point.

I also think it's a position almost guaranteed to end in electoral defeat. So the challengers have to think hard about when to step forward. Too soon and you are too associated with the loss at the next GE, which means you are out as leader in a short time.

There is also the issue for Streeting and Milliband, to an extent Rayner, of association with the existing government. It's not going to wash with the electorate that it's all someone else's fault, and more than it has for BadEnoch.

This, for me, all this points to Burnham but in about a year to 18 months.

 

[Pross]

Can't say I'm a fan of Streeting, but he might be the economically least destructive of the available options. Although that said, having one of the other options in charge may well shorten Labour's tenure more than him, so every cloud...

Did you miss that we are the fastest growing economy in the G7 at present?

 

[First Aspect]

She didn't get any tax advice at the time.

I think she did, but not from anyone qualified to give it.

Its a bit like going on the internet and asking some random bloke who claims to know about chemistry why a carrot has turned purple. If you then eat the carrot and turn purple, it's kind of partly your own fault as well.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think she did, but not from anyone qualified to give it.

Its a bit like going on the internet and asking some random bloke who claims to know about chemistry why a carrot has turned purple. If you then eat the carrot and turn purple, it's kind of partly your own fault as well.

It was green, and was the water, goddammit!

 

[Stevo 666]

Did you miss that we are the fastest growing economy in the G7 at present?

Not relevant here, although the news reports indicates that this is low bar.

I'm taking about what happens in future when one of the likely 4 replacements take over.

 

[TailWindHome]

I also think it's a position almost guaranteed to end in electoral defeat. So the challengers have to think hard about when to step forward. Too soon and you are too associated with the loss at the next GE, which means you are out as leader in a short time.

There is also the issue for Streeting and Milliband, to an extent Rayner, of association with the existing government. It's not going to wash with the electorate that it's all someone else's fault, and more than it has for BadEnoch.

This, for me, all this points to Burnham but in about a year to 18 months.

The flip side is that taking the leadership now is taking Downing St.
Wait and you're leader of the opposition

 

[Pross]

Not relevant here, although the news reports indicates that this is low bar.

I'm taking about what happens in future when one of the likely 4 replacements take over.

Why is it not relevant here? It's the thread about the current PM and you stated that Streeting may be the least financially illiterate of the potential candidates. Just because it doesn't suit your narrative doesn't make it irrelevant. For the record, I'm not remotely suggesting anyone should be happy with 'growth' at current levels but it seems the UK is hardly unique in this problem (and good old Donnie seems to be doing his best to keep things that way).

 

[Stevo 666]

Why is it not relevant here? It's the thread about the current PM and you stated that Streeting may be the least financially illiterate of the potential candidates. Just because it doesn't suit your narrative doesn't make it irrelevant. For the record, I'm not remotely suggesting anyone should be happy with 'growth' at current levels but it seems the UK is hardly unique in this problem (and good old Donnie seems to be doing his best to keep things that way).

Because I'm talking about the future economic impact of a leadership and you are talking about current economic performance.

 

[TailWindHome]

Streeting resigns

It's on

 

[secretsqirrel]

Streeting resigns

It's on

Might still get a WACO.

 

[C R]

Did you miss that we are the fastest growing economy in the G7 at present?

You and your facts.

 

[Beebo]

Streeting resigns

It's on

Just what the country doesn’t need.

 

[PurplePenguin]

I think she did, but not from anyone qualified to give it.

Its a bit like going on the internet and asking some random bloke who claims to know about chemistry why a carrot has turned purple. If you then eat the carrot and turn purple, it's kind of partly your own fault as well.

She was advised to get tax advice.

 

[secretsqirrel]

To be fair, his resignation letter is rather good.

 

[wakemalcolm]

To be fair, his resignation letter is rather good.

Must have been practicing yoga a while to be able to blow that much smoke up his own bahookie.