Starmer's vision quest

[First Aspect]

Agree, god knows what I could catch from a leftie putting his sticky mitts on my head.

If a leftie touches a right winger,.do they get a moderate infection?

 

[Stevo 666]

Labour simply can’t help themselves. In fighting will leave them in the wilderness for another generation.

That's cheered me up, thanks 😊

 

[Stevo 666]

If a leftie touches a right winger,.do they get a moderate infection?

The right winger might get a mild dose of twattitis?

 

[Psamathe]

Labour simply can’t help themselves. In fighting will leave them in the wilderness for another generation.

But leaving things as they are will also leave them in the wilderness for another generation. At least making a change gives them a chance. As per Rory Stewarts analogy, doing nothing is like being on the Titanic and refusing to get in a liferaft as it might not work (sinking on the Titanic is a certainty whereas sinking in the liferaft is a maybe, maybe not).

 

[briantrumpet]

But leaving things as they are will also leave them in the wilderness for another generation. At least making a change gives them a chance. As per Rory Stewarts analogy, doing nothing is like being on the Titanic and refusing to get in a liferaft as it might not work (sinking on the Titanic is a certainty whereas sinking in the liferaft is a maybe, maybe not).

Precipitated by Starmer saying he recognised they had to change, then using lots of words to say "No change!"

 

[Psamathe]

Maybe a strategy failure from Streeting? lack of thinking consequences?

Day when Streeting could blow his own trumpet and bask in his NHS waiting times meeting targets for improvement. But instead he chose all the headlines be about his resignation and that he doesn't appear to have enough support for a challenge.

 

[briantrumpet]

Maybe a strategy failure from Streeting? lack of thinking consequences?

Day when Streeting could blow his own trumpet and bask in his NHS waiting times meeting targets for improvement. But instead he chose all the headlines be about his resignation and that he doesn't appear to have enough support for a challenge.

I suspect he didn't realise how many PLP really don't like him. Even more now that he's actively trying to topple Starmer.

 

[Pblakeney]

Shedloads of more chat and speculation.
In 6 months time apart from any possible personnel changes does anyone see any material differences happening?

 

[briantrumpet]

Was just reminded of Miliband's "Hell yes, I'm tough enough!" claim, and why everyone sniggered at it at the time. And why he's right not to chase the leadership again (assuming he doesn't). Maybe one of the few politicians who recognises his limits.

 

[wakemalcolm]

"Hell yes, I'm tough enough!"

Unless you've come armed with a bacon sandwich

 

[spen666]

....Maybe one of the few politicians who recognises his limits.

To be fair most of the 650 or so MPs don't seek to lead their own parties.

It is a small minority of MPs who want that power

 

[briantrumpet]

Unless you've come armed with a bacon sandwich

TBF, anyone filed eating anything is going to look pretty silly (who had the banana incident? ... and then there was John Gummer's daughter and the beefburger...), so I don't know why politicians just avoid eating when there are cameras around.

 

[TailWindHome]

In fairness to Starmer
He's made it to Friday, and there's no leadership challenge

 

[Pross]

They really are shooting themselves in the foot here. Yesterday they had better than expect news on the economy and good news on NHS waiting lists that got buried in the potential leadership battle (with the former Health Secretary managing to hide the achievment of his own department). I've heard of burying bad news in the past but burying good news is an interesting tactic.

 

[C R]

They really are shooting themselves in the foot here. Yesterday they had better than expect news on the economy and good news on NHS waiting lists that got buried in the potential leadership battle (with the former Health Secretary managing to hide the achievment of his own department). I've heard of burying bad news in the past but burying good news is an interesting tactic.

To be fair, most of the press would have found something else to bury those news.