The NACA Music, Art & General Creativity Thread

[AndyRM]

I wonder how much Dr Pepper Joyce got through writing Ulysses.

I'm not sure it was internationally available. But it'll have taken a power of laudanum.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

BBC News - UK's 'dismal' Eurovision song choices to be examined by MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy3pdv612o

 

[Beebo]

BBC News - UK's 'dismal' Eurovision song choices to be examined by MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy3pdv612o

It’s good to know that our MPs have their finger on the pulse of what really matters.

 

[AndyRM]

BBC News - UK's 'dismal' Eurovision song choices to be examined by MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy3pdv612o

Waste of time really, we will never win again.

That said Eins, Zwei, Drei was genius, and Sam Ryder would have won were it not for everything kicking off in Ukraine.


View: https://youtu.be/8XR2RvfZ-68?is=L8nyRepVQRBoxN2f


It's actually played off that cobbled together shenanigans.

 

[Pblakeney]

Waste of time really, we will never win again.

That said Eins, Zwei, Drei was genius, and Sam Ryder would have won were it not for everything kicking off in Ukraine.


View: https://youtu.be/8XR2RvfZ-68?is=L8nyRepVQRBoxN2f


It's actually played off that cobbled together shenanigans.

Pure and simple. The whole thing is a popularity contest.
We come last. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[icowden]

Pure and simple. The whole thing is a popularity contest.
We come last. Draw your own conclusions.

It is, but it also reflects that we don't send "our best".

Let's look at the winner - Dara. She was an X-Factor Bulgaria finalist. She has had 13 No.1 Singles in Bulgaria and has a tonne of awards. She is Bulgaria's biggest pop star.

Now let's look at our entry. We sent an eccentric indie artist who has not had any single or album releases that have charted. His only entry into the charts ever has been his Eurovision entry.

Eurovision countries have heard of the UK. They know that we have artists like Ed Sheeran, Adele, Dua Lipa, Harry Styles, Elton John, Pauk McCartney, the Spice Girls,. Robbie Williams, Charli XCX, Calvin Harris, One Direction, JLS, Take That, Sam Fender, Rag'n'Bone Man, Mika, and so many more.

It's just possible that they think we are taking the piss by sending vague unknowns when they are sending their biggest selling artists. If we send one of our biggest artists and they get nul or 1 point, then we know there isa different problem. But whilst we send third rate singers singing second rate songs, we are not going to do well.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I don't think popular UK artists are interested in Eurovision anymore. It's considered a bit cringey and it would be embarrassing if they placed way down the order. As you say, send an artist who's already popular in a certain region and they'll pull in votes from the countries in that area as a minimum. Add in the political voting and I can't imagine a scenario in which the UK would ever win it now.

 

[Pblakeney]

It is, but it also reflects that we don't send "our best".

Let's look at the winner - Dara. She was an X-Factor Bulgaria finalist. She has had 13 No.1 Singles in Bulgaria and has a tonne of awards. She is Bulgaria's biggest pop star.

Now let's look at our entry. We sent an eccentric indie artist who has not had any single or album releases that have charted. His only entry into the charts ever has been his Eurovision entry.

Eurovision countries have heard of the UK. They know that we have artists like Ed Sheeran, Adele, Dua Lipa, Harry Styles, Elton John, Pauk McCartney, the Spice Girls,. Robbie Williams, Charli XCX, Calvin Harris, One Direction, JLS, Take That, Sam Fender, Rag'n'Bone Man, Mika, and so many more.

It's just possible that they think we are taking the piss by sending vague unknowns when they are sending their biggest selling artists. If we send one of our biggest artists and they get nul or 1 point, then we know there isa different problem. But whilst we send third rate singers singing second rate songs, we are not going to do well.

You'd have to ask our "big name performers" directly but I have a suspicion that they think the event is beneath them.
It's beneath me as I won't even watch the bloody thing.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It is, but it also reflects that we don't send "our best".

Let's look at the winner - Dara. She was an X-Factor Bulgaria finalist. She has had 13 No.1 Singles in Bulgaria and has a tonne of awards. She is Bulgaria's biggest pop star.

Now let's look at our entry. We sent an eccentric indie artist who has not had any single or album releases that have charted. His only entry into the charts ever has been his Eurovision entry.

Eurovision countries have heard of the UK. They know that we have artists like Ed Sheeran, Adele, Dua Lipa, Harry Styles, Elton John, Pauk McCartney, the Spice Girls,. Robbie Williams, Charli XCX, Calvin Harris, One Direction, JLS, Take That, Sam Fender, Rag'n'Bone Man, Mika, and so many more.

It's just possible that they think we are taking the piss by sending vague unknowns when they are sending their biggest selling artists. If we send one of our biggest artists and they get nul or 1 point, then we know there isa different problem. But whilst we send third rate singers singing second rate songs, we are not going to do well.

Tbf we did enter Engelbert Humperdink one year.

No wonder they don't like us.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Google tells me Englebert is still performing.
Then there's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lulu_(singer)

Let's leave Cliff out of this.

I only posted the article to express my despair at our MPs' priorities. It appears some take Eurovision more seriously.

 

[First Aspect]

BBC News - UK's 'dismal' Eurovision song choices to be examined by MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy3pdv612o

This really annoys me.

Aside from anything else the UK could put every no. 1 song in history into that competition and we'd still come last because it's the UK. Also EVERY song in that competition is terrible so how are they going to assess what's going wrong.

 

[AndyRM]

This really annoys me.

Aside from anything else the UK could put every no. 1 song in history into that competition and we'd still come last because it's the UK. Also EVERY song in that competition is terrible so how are they going to assess what's going wrong.

Why does it annoy you so much?

Every song?

Settle your farm.

 

[Ian H]

Tbf we did enter Engelbert Humperdink one year.

No wonder they don't like us.

And not even the original one (though he wasn't British).

 

[icowden]

Aside from anything else the UK could put every no. 1 song in history into that competition and we'd still come last because it's the UK. Also EVERY song in that competition is terrible so how are they going to assess what's going wrong.

I don't believe that.

Sandie Shaw was a big pop star, Cliff Richard was a big pop star, Lulu was a big pop star, Brotherhood of man less big but still had 3 number one hits and were a well known big act, same for Bucks Fizz and Katrina and the Waves. The only exception was Bucks Fizz which was formed for the contest.

Bucks Fizz is kind of where we gave up. We had a lucky break with Katrina and the Waves. We've had several artists do very well (Imaani, Jessica Garlick, Jade Ewen (Sugababes), Sam Ryder) but only when we put forward genuinely top or popular talent with a top song.

 

[briantrumpet]

I don't believe that.

Sandie Shaw was a big pop star, Cliff Richard was a big pop star, Lulu was a big pop star, Brotherhood of man less big but still had 3 number one hits and were a well known big act, same for Bucks Fizz and Katrina and the Waves. The only exception was Bucks Fizz which was formed for the contest.

Bucks Fizz is kind of where we gave up. We had a lucky break with Katrina and the Waves. We've had several artists do very well (Imaani, Jessica Garlick, Jade Ewen (Sugababes), Sam Ryder) but only when we put forward genuinely top or popular talent with a top song.

Did the rot set in with Terry Wogan gently giving a knowing wink about it being not entirely serious? 🤔