The UK political parties - what's going on?? thread.

[mudsticks]

The brexit thread has majorly swerved away from brexit consequences, and now seems to be mainly about debating the various merits or otherwise of the parties themselves..

Could we possibly post political stuff that isn't really brexit related elsewhere..??

Here even??

TIA

 

[newfhouse]

Sorry Muddersie.

 

[winjim]

To be fair I'm not really discussing the merits, more classifying them into a binary system.

 

[mudsticks]

To be fair I'm not really discussing the merits, more classifying them into a binary system.

Classify away - right here

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[winjim]

Classify away - right here

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Political parties

1. Tories
2. NotTories

Political priorities

1. GTTO
2. AOB

 

[Deleted member 49]

Political parties

1. Tories
2. NotTories

Political priorities

1. GTTO
2. AOB

So going off this ...

View: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1479477059940458499?t=8_msYoQzqCUXqftrVteTgQ&s=19

Have I got this right the Tories have defunded the NHS to the point where it doesn’t work properly, then Labour under Starmer want to privatise it ?

 

[winjim]

So going off this ...

View: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1479477059940458499?t=8_msYoQzqCUXqftrVteTgQ&s=19

Have I got this right the Tories have defunded the NHS to the point where it doesn’t work properly, then Labour under Starmer want to privatise it ?

It might not be how I'd ideally want to do things. File it under AOB and we'll look at it once we've seen to GTTO.

 

[Bromptonaut]

So going off this ...

View: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1479477059940458499?t=8_msYoQzqCUXqftrVteTgQ&s=19

Have I got this right the Tories have defunded the NHS to the point where it doesn’t work properly, then Labour under Starmer want to privatise it ?

Is that privatisation?

Using private hospitals' capacity to do elective procedures like hip replacements isn't new and, if the price is right, seems a reasonable way to get waiting lists over the hump.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Where do the medical staff in private healthcare come from? Wouldn't be the NHS would it.... if using private healthcare to ‘reduce waiting times’ simply makes things worse is there a point.
UK Labour shouldn't even be thinking/talking privatisation ! Wealth tax and fund it properly.At least have some sort of vision of what to do.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Is that privatisation?

Using private hospitals' capacity to do elective procedures like hip replacements isn't new and, if the price is right, seems a reasonable way to get waiting lists over the hump.

As well as Labour missing the bigger picture of a large proportion of the electorate who want NHS, public utilities back in public ownership.
Not boring bland politics that fix nothing long term.

 

[BoldonLad]

Is that privatisation?

Using private hospitals' capacity to do elective procedures like hip replacements isn't new and, if the price is right, seems a reasonable way to get waiting lists over the hump.

Very true, but, someone may make a profit, we cannot have that, far better to have people housebound waiting for hip operations

 

[Deleted member 49]

Very true, but, someone may make a profit, we cannot have that, far better to have people housebound waiting for hip operations

By that do you mean politicians getting their money/bungs/profits from the private healthcare companies ?

 

[newfhouse]

I'm not an employment lawyer but I imagine it would be possible to make it a contract condition for clinical staff working in the NHS that they didn't moonlight in the private sector. Why is that a bad idea?

 

[BoldonLad]

By that do you mean politicians getting their money/bungs/profits from the private healthcare companies ?

Only if the Private Healthcare Companies are 100% owned by Politicians (I am sure no Labour Politician would be a share holder).

 

[newfhouse]

Only if the Private Healthcare Companies are 100% owned by Politicians (I am sure no Labour Politician would be a share holder).

I think the fear is that many politicians are owned by the private healthcare companies.