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spen666

Well-Known Member
Post conviction, I understand the route would be to try to get the US Supreme Court to hear an appeal from the State's highest court.
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Can the US Supreme Court hear an appeal about a state crime? I am not sure they have the Jurisdiction to do so and that any appeal about a state crime would have to be heard by the State's own Supreme Court.

Time will tell on this matter whether they can or not
 

Psamathe

Regular
Already seeing and hearing reports (from reliable media) that Trump is beginning to lose patience with and "tiring of" Musk.

Long thought that Trump's personality makes him want to be king. Long thought that Musk's personality makes him want to be king. And when two kings over the same territory, both needing the attention of the population and bandwidth from the media ... it can't last. Particularly given Trump's record on his feeling indebted to those helping him.

I'm wondering is the DOGE department might end-up not happening with Musk out of Trump World before 20 Jan 2025.

Ian
 

Bazzer

Well-Known Member
Can the US Supreme Court hear an appeal about a state crime? I am not sure they have the Jurisdiction to do so and that any appeal about a state crime would have to be heard by the State's own Supreme Court.

Time will tell on this matter whether they can or not
See this link https://statecourtreport.org/our-wo...tter, today's,both civil and criminal appeals.
Much appears to be down to interpretation, which is why I referenced Thomas and Alito. Chief Justice Roberts also appears to want to be unhealthily involved in Trump SC cases, as reported in the Guardian and elesewhere.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/16/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-ruling
 

Milzy

Well-Known Member
I called Trump & Starmer would be in over 2 years ago. I think pressure will be on to get Starmer out now. A petition for a general election probably won’t cut it but something will happen, can’t see him lasting his full term.
 

All uphill

Well-Known Member
I called Trump & Starmer would be in over 2 years ago. I think pressure will be on to get Starmer out now. A petition for a general election probably won’t cut it but something will happen, can’t see him lasting his full term.

And what do you see happening then?

I'm not a fan of Starmer but I think a few years of stability now would be a good thing for the country.
 

tarric

Member
Not really the place to discus Starmer but here's my tuppence worth.

Labour have got 5 years to make some inroads into 14 years of CONservative damage. I said from the start there's some pain to come and it's obvious they are going to get that out of the way in in the first half of their term so they can spend the second half showing that they are making things better with a view to getting re-elected in 5 years time. Show me one public sector that is in a better state now than it was in 2010, I also doubt that the majority of the people in the country feel better of now than they did in 2010 and personally the least I expect from the government regardless of who's in power is that they improve public services and make me feel at least as well of if not better than the previous government.
 

C R

Über Member
Not really the place to discus Starmer but here's my tuppence worth.

Labour have got 5 years to make some inroads into 14 years of CONservative damage. I said from the start there's some pain to come and it's obvious they are going to get that out of the way in in the first half of their term so they can spend the second half showing that they are making things better with a view to getting re-elected in 5 years time. Show me one public sector that is in a better state now than it was in 2010, I also doubt that the majority of the people in the country feel better of now than they did in 2010 and personally the least I expect from the government regardless of who's in power is that they improve public services and make me feel at least as well of if not better than the previous government.

I admire your optimism.
 

Beebo

Guru
I called Trump & Starmer would be in over 2 years ago. I think pressure will be on to get Starmer out now. A petition for a general election probably won’t cut it but something will happen, can’t see him lasting his full term.

Where will this external pressure on Starmer come from?
There’s probably more chance that Trump will be booted out by his party for being senile, or get assassinated.
 

Milzy

Well-Known Member
Where will this external pressure on Starmer come from?
There’s probably more chance that Trump will be booted out by his party for being senile, or get assassinated.

Well when you put it like that it’s possible. Let’s build houses and get the migrants out of hotels into them. 2025 has got to be a better year than the last few.
 

ebikeerwidnes

Senior Member
Where will this external pressure on Starmer come from?
There’s probably more chance that Trump will be booted out by his party for being senile, or get assassinated.

I wouldn't want to have much riding on one of those 2 not happening

Personally I would like Starmer to have a good run and a chance to make a proper difference
at the moment it feels like he has taken over a sinking ship and is arranging for people to get bailing
but some people are still moaning that their socks are wet and he hasn;t done anything about it yet

Like it or not leading politicians these days need to have some sort of charisma - maybe not the type you want - but something

and Starmer might be a wonderful PM but he will never have the charisma that people like Blair and Johnson have - not that I am saying how wonderful either of those were either way - but they did have a certain something
In fact in my opinion part of Blair's success (ignoring "that folder" etc etc) was having Brown around to help him
but Brown on his own had got "IT"


and Starmer almost have negative "IT" - so I would not like him to still be leader of the Labour party next election

a nice clean peaceful hand over would be nice - not sure who to but a certain woman with red hair will probably have an opinion!
not sure she is right for the job
 
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