War with Russia

[briantrumpet]

I would say.
The arms race globally will be on drone capability. Also, it's easier for governments to enter conflict without boots on the ground. I don't think this is necessarily a good thing and I suspect that there will be a plethora of satellites deployed by all and sundry to assist in drone navigation. Star wars?

Hmm, fair point.

 

[Ian H]

It does give the impression of desperation, in response to the lack of success (and reversals) of ground troops.

It's a slightly weird thought, but does the 'war by drone' that has developed during the war mean that the shape of war has changed forever now?

It suggests that hugely complex and expensive war machines will be mostly replaced with mass-produced expendable gizmos.

 

[briantrumpet]

It suggests that hugely complex and expensive war machines will be mostly replaced with mass-produced expendable gizmos.

MPEGs?

 

[Pinno718]

It suggests that hugely complex and expensive war machines will be mostly replaced with mass-produced expendable gizmos.

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[briantrumpet]

A long detailed read on how Ukraine seems to be getting the upper hand in the drone war, which is making the conventional part of the war tricky for Russia.

https://kyivindependent.com/analysis-how-ukraine-gained-the-upper-hand-in-the-drone-war/

 

[Pinno718]

A long detailed read on how Ukraine seems to be getting the upper hand in the drone war, which is making the conventional part of the war tricky for Russia.

https://kyivindependent.com/analysis-how-ukraine-gained-the-upper-hand-in-the-drone-war/

'Seems' ? lol

 

[briantrumpet]

'Seems' ? lol

Well, I'm not there to witness it first hand. I did note that Russia had taken another 145 sq k (so traffic isn't all one way), but at great human cost.

 

[Pinno718]

Well, I'm not there to witness it first hand. I did note that Russia had taken another 145 sq k (so traffic isn't all one way), but at great human cost.

Between 2024 and early 2026, Russia captured approximately 8,000 square kilometers, requiring well over one million cumulative casualties.
Recent estimates indicate that Russia’s territorial gains in Ukraine have come at a cost of roughly 165 to 250+ Russian casualties (killed and wounded) for every square kilometer gained.

You do realise that the territorial gains mean very little? (unless it has strategic value like Kherson which the Russians have failed to retain after over 4 years of conflict).

Ukraine is intent on demolishing the military infrastructure and oil/gas production and transport facilities and not concerning themselves about territory.. Over 3 nights, after the end of the May 9 ceasefire, Ukraine hit Russia with over 4000 drones.
Watch Jay in Kyiv's recent videos on YT. The destruction by Ukrainian drones has proliferated, Russia's economy is in dire straits. The Ukrainians have reached the threshold of killing and wounding more personnel than Russia can replace. Looking at the territorial gain in isolation has little meaning.

There's a plethora of Russian housewives posting videos of the panic in Moscow. These are the affluent one's who can afford the expensive subscriptions to one of the 15 non-state owned internet companies* where Putin hasn't banned but placed massive legislation on and taxed. The poor (rich) ladies of Moscow are b*tching about how terrified they are hearing and seeing drone strikes and having to take shelter (even though they are not the target). Ukraine hit an oil refinery on the outskirts of Moscow**. Russian air defence missiles have gone astray and hit numerous apartment blocks. Something that was lost in ITV's most recent report where the suggestion was that Ukrainian drones had hit civilian targets. It was wrong and misleading.
Sorry to labour this one but at no point did a single Russian mention the civilians in Ukraine that have endured this for over 4 years and they're panicking after a few days of drone strikes. Diddums.

*Mr and Mrs Kremlin sycophants can't be without contact with darling daughter in Paris or Monaco can they now?!
So the internet restrictions affect the working class Russians and it's them that need to be fed the stream of propaganda so the proletariat doesn't rise up.

**What sort of capital city has an oil refinery in it's vicinity?! Modern Russia is built on oil. They don't really have a second economy or anything to fall back on and Ukraine is destroying it.

 

[briantrumpet]

Between 2024 and early 2026, Russia captured approximately 8,000 square kilometers, requiring well over one million cumulative casualties.
Recent estimates indicate that Russia’s territorial gains in Ukraine have come at a cost of roughly 165 to 250+ Russian casualties (killed and wounded) for every square kilometer gained.

You do realise that the territorial gains mean very little? (unless it has strategic value like Kherson which the Russians have failed to retain after over 4 years of conflict).

Ukraine is intent on demolishing the military infrastructure and oil/gas production and transport facilities and not concerning themselves about territory.. Over 3 nights, after the end of the May 9 ceasefire, Ukraine hit Russia with over 4000 drones.
Watch Jay in Kyiv's recent videos on YT. The destruction by Ukrainian drones has proliferated, Russia's economy is in dire straits. The Ukrainians have reached the threshold of killing and wounding more personnel than Russia can replace. Looking at the territorial gain in isolation has little meaning.

There's a plethora of Russian housewives posting videos of the panic in Moscow. These are the affluent one's who can afford the expensive subscriptions to one of the 15 non-state owned internet companies* where Putin hasn't banned but placed massive legislation on and taxed. The poor (rich) ladies of Moscow are b*tching about how terrified they are hearing and seeing drone strikes and having to take shelter (even though they are not the target). Ukraine hit an oil refinery on the outskirts of Moscow**. Russian air defence missiles have gone astray and hit numerous apartment blocks. Something that was lost in ITV's most recent report where the suggestion was that Ukrainian drones had hit civilian targets. It was wrong and misleading.
Sorry to labour this one but at no point did a single Russian mention the civilians in Ukraine that have endured this for over 4 years and they're panicking after a few days of drone strikes. Diddums.

*Mr and Mrs Kremlin sycophants can't be without contact with darling daughter in Paris or Monaco can they now?!
So the internet restrictions affect the working class Russians and it's them that need to be fed the stream of propaganda so the proletariat doesn't rise up.

**What sort of capital city has an oil refinery in it's vicinity?! Modern Russia is built on oil. They don't really have a second economy or anything to fall back on and Ukraine is destroying it.

Yeah, I realise 145sq km is nothing, and I'm generally getting a little more optimistic that Ukraine is going to prevail. Just that war is war, and strange things happen.

 

[Pinno718]

• Fuel shortages in Crimea
• Fuel shortages in Ryazan after refinery was hit
• Illegal for Russians to film drone strikes
• The M14 highway which connects Crimea to Russia now controlled by Ukrainian drones as burnt out Russian transport litters the route. Russian supplies to Kherson cut off.
• Ukraine hits FSB base south of Kherson. 100 Russians wounded or killed
• Slick Russian ads and influencers recruiting 18-22 year olds to sign up to build Shahed drones coming to an end
• Putin regime is liquidating gold reserves at the fastest rate since 2002

Interesting observation by the Swede's: