War with Russia

[Pinno718]

I was wondering exactly the same this morning – it's a no-win situation for the targets, and an easy terrorist 'win' for Russia. In the days of IRA terrorism, they had 'passwords' that alerted security forces to 'genuine' bomb threats. I suspect that's of little use/interest to Russia or its targets now, as 'doubt' is a very potent weapon, with virtually no cost to Russia.

It's another reason why we need Russia to collapse - sooner rather than later.
Things across the pond have slightly improved. Well, at least the wind is changing.

 

[Psamathe]

We can't ignore them, imagine a real bomb being ignored because "just a Rusian fake threat" and all the consquences We don't want that so we have to deal with the delays and such.

Even being Russian Warning is unreliable given the recent alledged boms/incendiary devices being sent DHL in Germany. Lull us into ignoring them and given their disregard for human life, a risk they'll use the opportunity to send real ones and deniably disrupt the west even more,

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Even being Russian Warning is unreliable given the recent alledged boms/incendiary devices being sent DHL in Germany. Lull us into ignoring them and given their disregard for human life, a risk they'll use the opportunity to send real ones and deniably disrupt the west even more,

Exactly, along with the troop build up along the borders with the eu just a way of annoying us knowing full well that if they atually attack thoussand of Polih, Swedish, Estonian forces are ready to take them on long before Nato has issued article 5 but if that is called there is no chance in hell they will win.

 

[Pinno718]

Even being Russian Warning is unreliable given the recent alledged boms/incendiary devices being sent DHL in Germany. Lull us into ignoring them and given their disregard for human life, a risk they'll use the opportunity to send real ones and deniably disrupt the west even more,

IMHO, this recent escalation of the 'hybrid war', is a sign of desperation.

They will push every possible button they can. It's state sponsored guerrilla warfare and terrorism. That's normally the course of action when a group or a country is facing a foe far bigger than themselves, not the actions of a superpower.

 

[Psamathe]

That's normally the course of action when a group or a country is facing a foe far bigger than themselves

Weird thing in the case of Russia is that they didn't have a "foe", but their own actions created a "foe" in their own minds. NATO never was a "foe" as it's a defensive organisation eg when Trümp wanted them to help his Iran war.

 

[Pinno718]

Weird thing in the case of Russia is that they didn't have a "foe", but their own actions created a "foe" in their own minds. NATO never was a "foe" as it's a defensive organisation eg when Trümp wanted them to help his Iran war.

Create a foe to justify defeating it. Page 109 of 'Dictatorships for dummies'.

 

[Ian H]

IMHO, this recent escalation of the 'hybrid war', is a sign of desperation.

They will push every possible button they can. It's state sponsored guerrilla warfare and terrorism. That's normally the course of action when a group or a country is facing a foe far bigger than themselves, not the actions of a superpower.

Covert operations, and cheap, mass-produced drones & weaponry are the modern way of warfare.

 

[Pinno718]

Covert operations, and cheap, mass-produced drones & weaponry are the modern way of warfare.

I don't disagree. I also think it's intrinsically linked to the evolution in communications networks.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Covert operations, and cheap, mass-produced drones & weaponry are the modern way of warfare.

Part of, despite all the modern things, old-fashioned artilery is still a giant killer in Ukraine, think it trades first and second place with drones. So modern warfare is still very hybrid, but a system like patriot get a run for it's money against a drone swarm. because his effectiveness vs cost. that's why we see in Ukraine(and now replicated by the Gulf nations) that defense is an mix with lighter weapons or drones to take out attack drones and systems like patriot to take out missiles.

 

[First Aspect]

There i said it.......

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.
If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.
The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.
This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).
After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.
Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc.
Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.
If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.
Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth Dave said earlier today.

Not to mention aliens. And their anal probes.

 

[Pinno718]

Not to mention aliens. And their anal probes.

You haven't got a tin foil hat!?! Jeezo...

 

[Pinno718]

Russia's largest oil refinery in Omsk struck, 1500km's from Ukraine.
This site deals with 400m barrels a day.