War with Russia

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Pblakeney

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Looking like Trump's honestly full circle, now back to him and Putin sitting down together and sharing the spoils. Ukraine's involvement mainly to hand over resources of any value and disappear.

And meanwhile EU/UK's previous tough last of "before Monday" (that's last Monday), seems to have gone rather quiet whilst Putin carries on unhindered.

Ian

Didn't Trump issue a similar deadline weeks ago which was summarily ignored? He's being played like a fish for sport.
EU/UK are no better but at least they are more discreet. Any threats and Putin's actions say "Meh, what you gonna do about it?".
 
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Psamathe

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Didn't Trump issue a similar deadline weeks ago which was summarily ignored? He's being played like a fish for sport.
EU/UK are no better but at least they are more discreet. Any threats and Putin's actions say "Meh, what you gonna do about it?".
To my thinking the EU/UK are making themselves look weak, highlighting their own lack of commitment. They issued an ultimatum for last Monday, Putin didn't do what was required so 1st thing Tuesday morning they should have announced new massive sanctions.

To most I suspect Putin playing games manipulating leaders is blindingly obvious just as it's clear he doesn't want to stop the war. So why are all these supposedly smart national leaders continually falling for Putin's games?

Ian
 
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Pblakeney

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To my thinking the EU/UK are making themselves look weak, highlighting their own lack of commitment. They issued an ultimatum for last Monday, Putin didn't do what was required so 1st thing Tuesday morning they should have announced new massive sanctions.

To most I suspect Putin playing games manipulating leaders is blindingly obvious just as it's clear he doesn't want to stop the war. So why are all these supposedly smart national leaders continually falling for Putin's games?

Ian

To my mind they are all weak and simply full of bluster in the hope that someone will fall for it.
The only person not to so far is Zelensky.

The reasons are simple. Too many vested interests and nobody really wants to consider the ultimate step.
 
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