War with Russia
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Pinno718
Squire
Who's fighting who?
Russia has begun supplying missiles to Iran, Bloomberg reports.
According to the publication, despite months of US and Israeli strikes, Iran has maintained its missile and drone production capabilities and used the cessation of hostilities to replenish its arsenal.
The report does not specify which missiles are involved. However, about a month ago, Iranian media reported that Tehran had requested “Geran-4” and “Geran-5” drones from Moscow.
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According to the publication, despite months of US and Israeli strikes, Iran has maintained its missile and drone production capabilities and used the cessation of hostilities to replenish its arsenal.
The report does not specify which missiles are involved. However, about a month ago, Iranian media reported that Tehran had requested “Geran-4” and “Geran-5” drones from Moscow.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Beebo
Legendary Member
When will Trump call on Russia to change their leader and make a deal?
So strange that all Trump’s heat goes on Ukraine.
If Trump does end up as a lame duck after the mid terms, it will be interesting to see if the international community start calling him out more openly.
So strange that all Trump’s heat goes on Ukraine.
If Trump does end up as a lame duck after the mid terms, it will be interesting to see if the international community start calling him out more openly.
Pblakeney
Shaman
More to the point, the US needs a new president.
Pinno718
Squire
***Thread crossover warning***
'The country is hurtling to an abyss'
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXsGe85BqDk
Dorset Boy
Über Member
Let me get this right.
The russian economy is collapsing big time, and with a shortage of oil it's ability to produce "stuff" is diminishing, yet it has been increasing its drone attacks on Ukraine, and can built extra missiles for Iran.....
It really would be great if Russia was on its knees and unable to continue its war on Ukraine, but despite Pinno telling us for a year or more that Russia is close to collapse, the war still continues.
And I have no idea where Pinno got the idea after my previous post that I think Ukraine should capitulate - that couldn't be further than the truth.
The russian economy is collapsing big time, and with a shortage of oil it's ability to produce "stuff" is diminishing, yet it has been increasing its drone attacks on Ukraine, and can built extra missiles for Iran.....
It really would be great if Russia was on its knees and unable to continue its war on Ukraine, but despite Pinno telling us for a year or more that Russia is close to collapse, the war still continues.
And I have no idea where Pinno got the idea after my previous post that I think Ukraine should capitulate - that couldn't be further than the truth.
Ian H
Pharaoh
Is it credible that no responsibility for the tensions lies with Nato’s own actions, or for that matter with the original decision to extend the American empire in Europe to an unsustainable point? And is there no better solution than a very long militarised border secured by elaborate demonstrations of commitment to small Eastern European towns?
Since April 2025, Germany has stationed its 45th Panzer brigade in Lithuania. By 2035 Germany plans to nearly double the size of its military forces and become ‘the strongest conventional army in Europe’. Polish rearmament continues. But the paradigm is still defined by the American military presence in Europe.
[Tom Stevenson reviewing a couple of American war novels in the LRB]
Since April 2025, Germany has stationed its 45th Panzer brigade in Lithuania. By 2035 Germany plans to nearly double the size of its military forces and become ‘the strongest conventional army in Europe’. Polish rearmament continues. But the paradigm is still defined by the American military presence in Europe.
[Tom Stevenson reviewing a couple of American war novels in the LRB]
C R
Squire
Can I just point out that 2025 is after 2022. And let's not forget that the invasion of Ukraine started in 2014, and before that Georgia was the target in 2008, and even before that Chechnya. I'm not fan of NATO, but let's not kid ourselves about Russia's intentions.
Psamathe
Squire
Which highlights the challenge and difficulty getting accurate information rather than spin and PR.
Becasue the real Clourflare Data Explorer figures show no "drop-off". But then the above posted graph has no Y-axis scale so is completely meaningless.
Last 12 months: eg April 2026 levels down at 41%
Last 7 days high 4 Oct 80%
Pinno718
Squire
It's all borrowed money. And, NK is supplying many parts and even labour.
2026 Figures: The Central Bank of Russia sold approximately 44 tonnes of gold in the first half of 2026. [Kitco]
Russia’s national government debt reached approximately $444.2 billion USD (or about 33.15 trillion rubles in public domestic debt) as of mid-2026, which translates to roughly 18% to 20% of the country's Gross Domestic Product (GDP). [Trading Economics]
Estimated time to permanently restore oil related infrastructure is 10 years
Grain exports down by 84%.
Personnel losses now exceed 1.5m.
Logistics trucks being taken out at a rate of 700 per month and October estimate is 800+.
There is a strict export ban on diesel.
Russia's seaborne imports of gasoline surged to record highs of ~125kbd this August, equivalent to a projected total of 470kt for the full month.
Ukraine war briefing: Russia running on imported gasoline, government confirms https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/20/ukraine-war-briefing-russia-running-on-imported-gasoline-government-confirms
Russia’s Finance Ministry failed to sell government bonds at an auction on Wednesday, its first unsuccessful placement since July, as plans for heavier borrowing and higher military spending weighed on the debt market. [Moscow Times]https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026...nds-as-borrowing-plans-weigh-on-market-a93834
This ^ is not a picture of a healthy economy nor does it point to long term sustainability.
Putin refuses point blank to veer from his course so what is going to change in terms of Russian economic stability in the near future?
If the Ukrainian plan is to now target not only more oil infrastructure but more data centres, this action just adds even more pressure on the Russian economy (see my previous post). What is the actual state of Russia when people are queueing for sometimes days for fuel in the country labelled the 'gas station of the world'?
On a positive note, Ukraine has successfully trialled a few versions of jet propelled drone interceptor and we hope that one of them will go into full scale production soon.
This would be a game changer.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated that one of the leading interceptor designs—reportedly derived from Ukraine's Bars missile-drone—is already moving toward mass production, with roughly 400 units expected to be produced by the end of October. [Liga.net}
Pinno718
Squire
Sure but the damage to 2 significant data centres in Russia cannot be under estimated.
Check out Jeremiah Fowler security researcher and decide on the efficacy of his observations yourself.
Pinno718
Squire
11 years effectively and now Russia is loosing ground quickly -
March–September 2026 Gains: According to assessments by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), Ukrainian forces liberated roughly 256.35 square kilometers in September alone, reversing Russian advances of 175.54 square kilometers for a net monthly gain of 80.81 square kilometers in Ukraine's favor.
So for the detractors; remember, the SMO was only going to last 3 days.
