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[Pross]

Stacey Dooley did an interesting documentary on hunting. It really challenged her beliefs.

Depends what you mean by hunting I suppose. There's hunting where you eat what you kill, hunting to control animal populations or hunting just to kill the biggest creature you can find. I don't have an issue with the first two (providing with the first you are doing it sustainably) but the third is just pointless destruction.

 

[briantrumpet]

I dunno, BBC, now let me think...

 

[briantrumpet]

Depends what you mean by hunting I suppose. There's hunting where you eat what you kill, hunting to control animal populations or hunting just to kill the biggest creature you can find. I don't have an issue with the first two (providing with the first you are doing it sustainably) but the third is just pointless destruction.

One of the arguments for fox hunting was that farmers maintained habits that foxes liked, which also benefited other wildlife & flora, instead of exploiting it for more commercial ends. I suspect it didn't change many minds, as obviously the end result was that foxes were killed just for the 'pleasure'.

 

[First Aspect]

One of the arguments for fox hunting was that farmers maintained habits that foxes liked, which also benefited other wildlife & flora, instead of exploiting it for more commercial ends. I suspect it didn't change many minds, as obviously the end result was that foxes were killed just for the 'pleasure'.

Yes but any scientific argument advanced by farmers or other country folk should be considered utter bollocks unless proven otherwise by someone with a degree.

The badger cull being another example. The insistent trapping of birds of prey being a further example.

It's all farmers wanting to kill stuff rather than have already dead lambs feasted on by scavengers.

 

[briantrumpet]

Yes but any scientific argument advanced by farmers or other country folk should be considered utter bollocks unless proven otherwise by someone with a degree.

The badger cull being another example. The insistent trapping of birds of prey being a further example.

It's all farmers wanting to kill stuff rather than have already dead lambs feasted on by scavengers.

Just to be devil's advocate:

 

[First Aspect]

What that says is we will cut down all the trees and hedgerows unless you let us kill foxes.

 

[Pblakeney]

@Pblakeney - remember that little tsunami? I guess it depends where you were on how little it was.

https://bsky.app/profile/theplanetaryguy.bsky.social/post/3lvlqggq2wc2e

Yes. Well, two points.
1. I was talking about Hawaii.
2. My point was about the reporting, not the tsunami.

 

[Pross]

One of the arguments for fox hunting was that farmers maintained habits that foxes liked, which also benefited other wildlife & flora, instead of exploiting it for more commercial ends. I suspect it didn't change many minds, as obviously the end result was that foxes were killed just for the 'pleasure'.

It was the method being used that was the issue (for me at least) and which was banned, assuming the population needed controlling for a legitimate reason. You can still shoot foxes, chasing them for miles on horseback with a pack of dogs wasn't really very efficient when you could just go out with a rifle fitted with a night scope, wait along the track they habitually take and shoot them quickly and humanely.

My daughter was into her horse riding and always fancied doing the riding part without the chasing a fox bit so there's no reason why that couldn't continue (as it has although some will say they are still illegally killing foxes in the process) which would allow the supposed ecological benefits to remain. It certainly didn't destroy all these professions the pro hunt lobby were going on about, farriers are still ridiculously busy and charging a fortune for the privilege.

 

[briantrumpet]

What that says is we will cut down all the trees and hedgerows unless you let us kill foxes.

I wasn't expecting it to persuade anyone.

 

[briantrumpet]

Great news!

Great news he's in Taiwan, not the UK, spouting bollox, with a terrible haircut.

 

[orraloon]

That's not the actual Spaffer spouting bollox as per normal, it's an AI version spouting whatevs.

 

[Pinno718]

I'm against trophy hunting and would like it banned but I honestly don't know why you'd revel in somebody's death.

Well, if you place humans above animals*...
I grew up in Kenya and witnessed at first hand the effects of poaching. Nowadays, South African mercenaries are behind a lot of Rhino horn procurement.
I would make poaching a capital offence.
I place people who take pleasure in killing another animal for nothing else than personal gratification or for money making purposes as sub-human. I have no moral qualms whatsoever in laughing at this (dead) @rsehole. One less bastard in the world. Bye bye.

*Now don't get all uppity - I am not vegetarian BTW. I don't place animals as equal, I place them in the pyramid of life to which we rely on for our own existence. It's not a binary choice.

That's my angle.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Depends what you mean by hunting I suppose. There's hunting where you eat what you kill, hunting to control animal populations or hunting just to kill the biggest creature you can find. I don't have an issue with the first two (providing with the first you are doing it sustainably) but the third is just pointless destruction.

That's the bit she looked at in her documentary. The money from the trophy hunting allows an entire eco system to exist. The meat from the kill was also eaten.

 

[briantrumpet]

That's not the actual Spaffer spouting bollox as per normal, it's an AI version spouting whatevs.

How can one tell the difference? Neither is capable of self-awareness for starters.

 

[First Aspect]

How can one tell the difference? Neither is capable of self-awareness for starters.

One of them has intelligence.