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briantrumpet
It is also nonsense because there's still a landlord.

Also, what's with the over capitalisation of written language these days. I so not have to Capitalise Everything in order to make a Point.

I think they must have bought the wrong size Letraset, and are Using Them Up.

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briantrumpet
No, this is communism.

Isn't communism a subset of populism?
 

Psamathe

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I think they must have bought the wrong size Letraset, and are Using Them Up.

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Oh dear. I do think changes are needed to tenants rights but that statement of intent highlights lack of so much (unintended consequences, financial realities, etc., etc.)

That said, I would support Abolish Right to Buy and I do think more Council housing a good way to go. Difficulty is that borrow money and it has to be repaid and with interest.

My attitude to Green Party is "fluctuating". Pre their recent leadership election they'd have my vote. But wasn't impressed with Zac thingy and news of his being elected and I'd not be voting for them. But first day after election he was sounding sensible. But since then he and they have sort of gone daft. But he only has a one year term so who knows.
 

First Aspect

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Oh dear. I do think changes are needed to tenants rights but that statement of intent highlights lack of so much (unintended consequences, financial realities, etc., etc.)

That said, I would support Abolish Right to Buy and I do think more Council housing a good way to go. Difficulty is that borrow money and it has to be repaid and with interest.

My attitude to Green Party is "fluctuating". Pre their recent leadership election they'd have my vote. But wasn't impressed with Zac thingy and news of his being elected and I'd not be voting for them. But first day after election he was sounding sensible. But since then he and they have sort of gone daft. But he only has a one year term so who knows.
The greens are populists, basically. Or they at least fit Brian's definition.
 
An ill-thought out populist policy that just reinforces the notion that the Greens are bonkers.

Only a tenant can end a tenancy? That's an end to short term lets then from landlords who are working away for a while or have moved in with a partner for a while. Tenants get first dibs at buying the property that landlords are forced to sell with all their rent deducted from the price? 20 years rent knocked off? The council get the right to buy a property that has been empty for 6 months? If the person is in a care home or the estate is in probate?

The initial excitement of Polanski bringing in new members has passed and we're back to the Greens showing us why they remain unelectable.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

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Isn't communism a subset of populism?

It depends on the parameters you are judging it by. Based on what Marx and Engels proferred in 'The Communist Manifesto' then probably not. Based on practical applications of 'Communism' across the world then probably yes. A rather excellent example of where the practice rather ran away from the theory.
 
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First Aspect

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The Greens made the mistake of having policies not environmentally related in Scotland as well - they jumped on the gender identity and independence bandwagons and it was their undoing. To the detriment of the green policies they exist to promote.

I have to be honest, they seem to consistently conflate "green" with "socialist". This firstly isn't necessarily the case and, secondly, restricts their appeal.

Simpletons.
 

Psamathe

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The council get the right to buy a property that has been empty for 6 months?
I can head off travelling for more than 6 months. Come home to find Council has purchased my house and done what with my possessions & furniture.

Whilst I have no idea about who pushed this "policy" or why I agree that the private rental sector does need some further regulation mostly to address the outliers (sub-standard landlords). But they seem to be throwing out the baby with the bathwater and would create a disaster.

I used to be a Green Party member and active (in attending meetings, etc.) but stopped not from and disagreements more because I got too busy doing other stuff. So I don't know the current procedures but I understood that party "policy" is very democratic in that membership proposes policy and party votes on that policy so leadership might not have as much control as in more authoritarian policies.

My impression is that under Adrian Ramsay and Ellie Chowns things were fairly sensible (I would have voted for Adrian Ramsay but I was traveling overseas through the election). I can understand the Party taking a risk on Polanski as he's only been elected for.a 1 year term so if it doesn't work plenty of time for a replacement to establish themselves ie a low risk punt.
 
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It depends on the parameters you are judging it by. Based on what Marx and Engels proferred in 'The Communist Manifesto' then probably not. Based on practical applications of 'Communism' across the world then probably yes. A rather excellent example of where the practice rather ran away from the theory.

I thought in practice communism was unpopulist?
 
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briantrumpet
It depends on the parameters you are judging it by. Based on what Marx and Engels proferred in 'The Communist Manifesto' then probably not. Based on practical applications of 'Communism' across the world then probably yes. A rather excellent example of where the practice rather ran away from the theory.

Thanks. The last time I 'studied' communism was in 1979 for O-level, and that just focused on the Russian & Chinese revolutions, rather than the philosophical theories and practical outcomes. But it strikes me that you need to sell simplistic ideas of unicorns to get the masses to support revolution, and as we've seen, the masses don't get the unicorns, usually just long queues for bread and crap cars.

That said, how China is navigating itself away from stringent communism to embracing capitalist markets to the benefit of China's general economy is certainly very interesting.
 

Ian H

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It depends on the parameters you are judging it by. Based on what Marx and Engels proferred in 'The Communist Manifesto' then probably not. Based on practical applications of 'Communism' across the world then probably yes. A rather excellent example of where the practice rather ran away from the theory.

I wouldn't class Stalin as populist.
 
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