BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[CXRAndy]

Maybe it was the woke fleeing NY


View: https://x.com/i/status/2035938319172088196

 

[briantrumpet]

Two pilots die when a Canadian Air plane crashes into a fire truck that had been cleared to cross a runway. I'm not entirely surprised that it happened in America, where the safety systems seem overstretched.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...icle-new-yorks-la-guardia-airport-2026-03-23/

 

[Pblakeney]

Two pilots die when a Canadian Air plane crashes into a fire truck that had been cleared to cross a runway. I'm not entirely surprised that it happened in America, where the safety systems seem overstretched.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...icle-new-yorks-la-guardia-airport-2026-03-23/

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Apparently only going 24 mph prior to the collision. 😱

 

[briantrumpet]

Apparently only going 24 mph prior to the collision. 😱

I guess those fire trucks are quite heavy, but it does demonstrate how the strength of aeroplanes is quite specific, in order to minimise weight.

 

[Poacher]

Apparently only going 24 mph prior to the collision. 😱

110 knots, 126 mph according to pprune / flightradar. Does 24 mph refer to the fire truck?

 

[briantrumpet]

110 knots, 126 mph according to pprune / flightradar. Does 24 mph refer to the fire truck?

That sounds more likely, and a case of unintentionally vague or inaccurate reporting.

 

[First Aspect]

That sounds more likely, and a case of unintentionally vague or inaccurate reporting.

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At some point the trace will have gone from a speed to zero, with discrete data points along the way. This is a good example of over analysing the data.

 

[CXRAndy]

At 24mph a,typical airliner would have around 1,000,000 kg-m/s

Easily enough damage to a fire truck as seen

If it was travelling at 130mph the kinetic energy would be immense, the plane would have probably run right over the top and further down the fuselage

 

[icowden]

Apparently only going 24 mph prior to the collision. 😱

I think it's quite hard to stop a commercial aeroplane even when it's only doing about 24mph.
Anyway given that Trump is systematically understaffing ATC, that the tech is massively outdated and the Republicans are dissuading anyone from wanting to work there because they don't get paid for weeks on end every time the Senate can't agree funding, I suspect we will see more of this sort of thing.

 

[First Aspect]

All ATC here and lots of other places is also outdated, because it's quite hard to switch it off and turn out a new one. Always turns out to be safer to put sticky tape on the old one.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think it's quite hard to stop a commercial aeroplane even when it's only doing about 24mph.
Anyway given that Trump is systematically understaffing ATC, that the tech is massively outdated and the Republicans are dissuading anyone from wanting to work there because they don't get paid for weeks on end every time the Senate can't agree funding, I suspect we will see more of this sort of thing.

I think it's another aspect of the normalisation of things like gun and road deaths, which mostly isn't the case in Europe, where *mostly* things like this would result in considerable scrutiny and soul searching in order to improve safety protocols.

Obviously there is the kind-of exception of road deaths here, which are kind of routinely accepted as a ongoing 'cost' of mass individual transport, but even there it's not without scrutiny.

 

[briantrumpet]

It's genuinely difficult to work out quite what the electorate is expecting from politicians... perhaps this does suggest that Labour should stop obsessing over transitory polls and just get on with doing helpful stuff, rather than try to please a resolutely unpleasable population.

 

[BoldonLad]

It's genuinely difficult to work out quite what the electorate is expecting from politicians... perhaps this does suggest that Labour should stop obsessing over transitory polls and just get on with doing helpful stuff, rather than try to please a resolutely unpleasable population.

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Yes, there is only one "Poll" that matters.

 

[BoldonLad]

Looks like we might have to rename HS2, perhaps HS1/2, or HS0.5? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czex3lj077xo

 

[Pblakeney]

Looks like we might have to rename HS2, perhaps HS1/2, or HS0.5? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czex3lj077xo

LS2?