BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[First Aspect]

But it's completely wrong. 48 people is 10 cars or 12 if you exclude drivers. If your autonomous cars are 7 seaters, then 7 cars.

You are confusing personal transport with public transport. People are no more likely to share their cars than they are to have the most occupant efficient use of their homes.

 

[briantrumpet]

But it's completely wrong. 48 people is 10 cars or 12 if you exclude drivers. If your autonomous cars are 7 seaters, then 7 cars.

Not in practice. How many cars are driven at 100 occupancy?

 

[Pblakeney]

But it's completely wrong. 48 people is 10 cars or 12 if you exclude drivers. If your autonomous cars are 7 seaters, then 7 cars.

Not spent much time stuck in rush hour traffic then?

 

[Psamathe]

On the minus side, I only learnt yesterday that 'voice notes' is, in effect, voicemail.

I'm glad to see that for a vast majority the UK at least has enough sense to recognise that they are a waste of the recipients' time. It's up to the person wanting to convey information to have the politeness to distil the message into a coherent written text. If the recipient wants to exchange an oral ramble, let them call back.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn7kpyye4y0o

I won't use WattsApp. Won't even give my real phone number to people who do (as WhatsApp uploads their entire phone book/contacts to Meta), give them my burner number.

 

[Psamathe]

It is a bit different in the professional arena where a paper trail is necessary.
As one client put it to me, "If it is not in black and white then it never happened." Follow up phone calls are nice and polite but there are no records.

On iPhone you can record calls. I've not used it but when you start a record it plays a "This call is being recorded" message to everybody on the call so not a secret underhand thing. You can also get a (automated) transcript of the call.

 

[icowden]

I won't use WattsApp. Won't even give my real phone number to people who do (as WhatsApp uploads their entire phone book/contacts to Meta), give them my burner number.

 

[Pblakeney]

On iPhone you can record calls. I've not used it but when you start a record it plays a "This call is being recorded" message to everybody on the call so not a secret underhand thing. You can also get a (automated) transcript of the call.

I see two issues with that.
1. You still have to file and save all phone calls.
2. People act differently when being recorded so the social aspect is lost.
Just as easy to email and follow up the call.

 

[PurplePenguin]

On iPhone you can record calls. I've not used it but when you start a record it plays a "This call is being recorded" message to everybody on the call so not a secret underhand thing. You can also get a (automated) transcript of the call.

That's a complete pain though. Even when you trade derivatives which is often done by verbal contract, it is always followed up by a written confirmation. No one wants to listen to a recording.

 

[icowden]

Not in practice. How many cars are driven at 100 occupancy?

Ah, but that's when you are driving *your* car. If an autonomous EV costs you £15 to get home for exclusive use or from £3 if you car pool, which option will you go for?

Uber Pool is already a popular option from Heathrow. I've used it myself. Shared with two other people so instead of £50 it cost just under £20 and took about 15 mins longer.

 

[PurplePenguin]

I won't use WattsApp. Won't even give my real phone number to people who do (as WhatsApp uploads their entire phone book/contacts to Meta), give them my burner number.

It's much harder/more expensive than I feel it should be to get a Whatsapp burner number. Any number anywhere in the world should be enough. i have found some Welsh company that does it for £1, but that is still a physical SIM.

 

[icowden]

That's a complete pain though. Even when you trade derivatives which is often done by verbal contract, it is always followed up by a written confirmation. No one wants to listen to a recording.

The transcript can be handy. My Pixel does it for calls.

 

[icowden]

It's much harder/more expensive than I feel it should be to get a Whatsapp burner number.

Maybe it's just a bit pointless?

 

[AndyRM]

I won't use WattsApp. Won't even give my real phone number to people who do (as WhatsApp uploads their entire phone book/contacts to Meta), give them my burner number.

Yeah, that's what to do, tell the world you've got a burner on an open social media site.

 

[Psamathe]

It's much harder/more expensive than I feel it should be to get a Whatsapp burner number. Any number anywhere in the world should be enough. i have found some Welsh company that does it for £1, but that is still a physical SIM.

I have one already. Use it quite a lot for online orders as even reputable online retailers get hacked and ... story follows:

On two occasions an online purchase (very reputable retailer) has been hacked and hackers got my details and whilst I was fully refunded their use of my card (between £1000-2000 both times), the real grief came from the 2nd hack where they started texting me with rather easy to detect SCAMs. They when I didn't respond they started calling me pretending to be my bank maybe once a week. When calls didn't work they started calling me with threats ending up with "Your address is <xyz> and we're going to come round any <sexual violence> your daughter ..." 9which of course they wouldn't 'cos they just want your money. But I then decided time to change number and it's real grief with all the OTPs from all sorts of official bodies, some of which make changing your number more than difficult.

So I got myself a burner number I can stop using at any time without having to tell anybody about it (and get another).

 

[icowden]

On two occasions an online purchase (very reputable retailer) has been hacked and hackers got my details and whilst I was fully refunded their use of my card (between £1000-2000 both times), the real grief came from the 2nd hack where they started texting me with rather easy to detect SCAMs. They when I didn't respond they started calling me pretending to be my bank maybe once a week. When calls didn't work they started calling me with threats ending up with "Your address is <xyz> and we're going to come round any <sexual violence> your daughter ..." 9which of course they wouldn't 'cos they just want your money. But I then decided time to change number and it's real grief with all the OTPs from all sorts of official bodies, some of which make changing your number more than difficult.

Sounds awful. I've never had an issue and have had the same mobile phone number since 1993.

Presumably you reported the calls to the Police? These days I just block scam calls - android is very good at highlighting possible scam callers. It's very hard to steal my money without the 2FA verification, and without the bank spotting misuse pretty damn quickly. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that (touch wood) it's never happened to me.

To be fair, I only use Whatsapp for personal communications (family, friends etc). It has never bothered me that Meta have all my data as Alphabet have it all as well. They know exactly where and when I have been for the last 10 years, most of my email and all of my photos live in Google's cloud.