BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[midlandsgrimpeur]

All agreed, which is why I say it's all very disappointing. (And also because I wouldn't be surprised if there's racism involved in singling him out for scrutiny.)

Indeed. I have no doubt that, as with the attacking of DEI in the states, there is an undercurrent of racism in certain sections of the media.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

This is quite extraordinarily dumb. What exactly is 'vertical drinking', does that mean if you lie on the pavement and drink that would be okay? This is similar to all the people in Soho that are trying to get pubs and clubs shut or closed by 10pm. You live in one of the busiest areas of the one of the world's busiest cities, if you don't like pubs/clubs/noise etc. then go and live or socialise somewhere else!

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...nts-pubs-in-london-soho-west-end-ban-standing

 

[Pblakeney]

This is quite extraordinarily dumb. What exactly is 'vertical drinking', does that mean if you lie on the pavement and drink that would be okay? This is similar to all the people in Soho that are trying to get pubs and clubs shut or closed by 10pm. You live in one of the busiest areas of the one of the world's busiest cities, if you don't like pubs/clubs/noise etc. then go and live or socialise somewhere else!

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...nts-pubs-in-london-soho-west-end-ban-standing

That is crazy! When I was a teenager one piece of advice was to drink standing up as that way you know how much you've been affected.
Drinking sitting down, then standing up at the end of the night is a recipe for disaster.

 

[icowden]

Isn't the issue mainly about the bonnet height right at the front?
In your case you have selfishly put the battery underneath everything else, leading to a relatively tall car.

It's a bit debateable. The ID4 scored very highly for vulnerable road user protection in crash assessments. Bumper and bonnet structures are designed to reduce leg and pelvis injury severity upon impact. Plus all EVs have ADAS to avoid hitting pedestrians in the first place.

That said, there is no reason for the ID4's bonnet to be designed as it is, given that there should be almost nothing in it. The profile could be a lot safer.

 

[icowden]

This is quite extraordinarily dumb. What exactly is 'vertical drinking', does that mean if you lie on the pavement and drink that would be okay? This is similar to all the people in Soho that are trying to get pubs and clubs shut or closed by 10pm. You live in one of the busiest areas of the one of the world's busiest cities, if you don't like pubs/clubs/noise etc. then go and live or socialise somewhere else!

I liked the bit of magical thinking that states that pubs should provide more seating. Clearly the authors have not been to enough pubs in the West End and Soho. A huge number have no more room for seating. That's why people are standing outside. The end result of banning "vertical drinking" will be the closure of a lot of pubs and bars.

The Dog and Duck in Soho has seating for about 35 people and there isn't room for any more seating. It's a small - but popular - pub.

 

[Ian H]

...That's a heck of a generalisation, but to be expected here...

Bless.

 

[Pross]

How do you know the owner doesn't need the space? That's a heck of a generalisation, but to be expected here.
They may need that space for a handful of trips each year - maybe a trip to the airport with their bike box and that of a friend, maybe a camping trip with the family, maybe a trip run.
Would you rather they had another small car clogging up the street parking for all their other weekly needs?

I said in most cases so hardly a generalisation is it? I don't feel that's too controversial as most people with several kids manage fine with a standard hatchback. How many people genuinely require the boot space of a Range Rover etc.? The only time I've needed anything that big was when we had horses (I had an old Frontera that made it easy to chuck feed bags, bales of shavings and hay into the back). Do you also genuinely think that most of those driving large SUVs only have one car? It certainly isn't my experience of those that own them.

The most practical car I've had was a Focus Estate, it carried loads and passengers better than my A4 Avant but was far easier to drive around on a daily basis than that Frontera. Unfortunately there are hardly any similar vehicles around these days.

 

[Dorset Boy]

The bold part is not the best example to use. That, plus all luggage can fit in a Golf.

Good luck getting 2 hardshell bike boxes plus luggage plus 2 people in a Golf and shutting the boot properly..... or a hardshell plus a Scion bag where the bars don't get removed.

 

[Pross]

That is crazy! When I was a teenager one piece of advice was to drink standing up as that way you know how much you've been affected.
Drinking sitting down, then standing up at the end of the night is a recipe for disaster.

I think you drink faster when standing though (at least I do) especially if you have nothing to put your glass on.

 

[Dorset Boy]

I said in most cases so hardly a generalisation is it? I don't feel that's too controversial as most people with several kids manage fine with a standard hatchback. How many people genuinely require the boot space of a Range Rover etc.? The only time I've needed anything that big was when we had horses (I had an old Frontera that made it easy to chuck feed bags, bales of shavings and hay into the back). Do you also genuinely think that most of those driving large SUVs only have one car? It certainly isn't my experience of those that own them.

The most practical car I've had was a Focus Estate, it carried loads and passengers better than by A4 Avant but was far easier to drive around on a daily basis than that Frontera. Unfortunately there are hardly any similar vehicles around these days.

As has been pointed out above, not all SUVs are the size of a Range Rover. The vast majority are much smaller.
I do agree there should be a better choice of estates but if globally people aren't buying them, the manufacturers won't build them. (There may be an element of chicken and egg there though).
I also said that most journeys could be made in a smaller vehicle, but it's the handful of ones that can't that are a factor in the choice of vehicle.

 

[Ian H]

I think you drink faster when standing though (at least I do) especially if you have nothing to put your glass on.

If there are no seats, I'll leave for another pub.

 

[laurentian]

Good luck getting 2 hardshell bike boxes plus luggage plus 2 people in a Golf and shutting the boot properly..... or a hardshell plus a Scion bag where the bars don't get removed.

Having done this easily without hardshell cases (where the overall height would be smaller as the bikes have both wheels are removed), I would venture that this is very possible.

 

[Pross]

As has been pointed out above, not all SUVs are the size of a Range Rover. The vast majority are much smaller.
I do agree there should be a better choice of estates but if globally people aren't buying them, the manufacturers won't build them. (There may be an element of chicken and egg there though).
I also said that most journeys could be made in a smaller vehicle, but it's the handful of ones that can't that are a factor in the choice of vehicle.

I know, I drive one (a Qashqai) and my next car will almost certainly be one - Renault Scenic or Skoda Elroq are current favourites although they are both around the 2 ton mark so similar / heavier than that old Frontera I had!

 

[Pblakeney]

Good luck getting 2 hardshell bike boxes plus luggage plus 2 people in a Golf and shutting the boot properly..... or a hardshell plus a Scion bag where the bars don't get removed.

Done it many times with hardshell cases*, with room to spare. All cases where the handlebars were removed though.

*A Shokbox and a Bike Box Alan.

 

[Pblakeney]

I think you drink faster when standing though (at least I do) especially if you have nothing to put your glass on.

That just means you go home earlier. 😉