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Stevo 666

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Not sure what your point was. It seems to be that eyesight is brilliant even though it takes 0.12 seconds for an image to be registered and your brain take action. At 70mph that's 3.75 metres of distance between you seeing something and being able to react to it. That's why things like emergency braking can reduce collisions.

Then you have to factor that eyes, like the rest of your body, get tired. After driving for a couple of hours, you have fatigue - your reaction times slow. Computers don't.

Another factor is that your eyes have a blind spot. Cameras and radar have no such blind spots.

Etc etc.

Point was about the drawback of an EV that was mentioned above.

My car has safety features like proximity warning and emergency auto braking etc, which could come in handy at some point.
 

icowden

Squire
Point was about the drawback of an EV that was mentioned above.
I mentioned no drawback.
 
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Pross

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An architect BR forumite not of this new parish posted a graph, yes a graph, with a turning point of deaths/serious injuries at about 30 mph. It was really quite persuasive and tipped me personally from on the fence to being unable in good conscience to object.

At this point, opposition to 20 zones in residential and high pedestrian areas is up there with resistance to seatbelt use on the grounds that they prevent people from being safely thrown away from the vehicle.

You sure that wasn’t me? It was something I’d seen presented at a road safety conference but took me ages to track it down when there was the talk about ‘why 20 and not 10 if speed is so bad’.
 

First Aspect

Active Member
You sure that wasn’t me? It was something I’d seen presented at a road safety conference but took me ages to track it down when there was the talk about ‘why 20 and not 10 if speed is so bad’.
I don't recall having an I am agreeing with you type argument about it, so it may well have been you.
 
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briantrumpet

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You sure that wasn’t me? It was something I’d seen presented at a road safety conference but took me ages to track it down when there was the talk about ‘why 20 and not 10 if speed is so bad’.

That sounds like one of those reductio ad absurdum arguments when people try to discredit a pragmatic proposal by projecting it onto a silly (and unpragmatic) suggestion. Can't think who'd have done that.
 

First Aspect

Active Member
That sounds like one of those reductio ad absurdum arguments when people try to discredit a pragmatic proposal by projecting it onto a silly (and unpragmatic) suggestion. Can't think who'd have done that.
We literally had that argument on BR. As well as the one about every car in Wales now being nearly stationary, despite the average speed in most towns and cities being below 20 anyway. I think we also argued that because everyone rigorously sticks to the current 30 limits and data shows they only slow down to about 25 in 20 zones, what's the point anyway.

I think this is why they decided to close the forum.
 

Pblakeney

Active Member
We literally had that argument on BR. As well as the one about every car in Wales now being nearly stationary, despite the average speed in most towns and cities being below 20 anyway. I think we also argued that because everyone rigorously sticks to the current 30 limits and data shows they only slow down to about 25 in 20 zones, what's the point anyway.

I think this is why they decided to close the forum.

Also had an identical one over on the Mother Board recently.
 

Pblakeney

Active Member
Woe betide them if they stray into political discussion...

I was most surprised how long it rolled on for before people simply got bored.
 

BoldonLad

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I find that driving an EV keeps an eye on my speed. Most of the time the car is controlling it and going over 70 kills range so isn't worth it.
Another of the many benefits of EVs.

ICE cars consume more fuel (thus reducing range of a full tank) the faster they are driven.

Many ICE Cars have speed limiter technology.

Many ICE Cars have Active Cruise Control, or simply Cruise Control.

Doesn't seem to stop speeding.
 
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