BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[Stevo 666]

The bolded bit - what a dumb comment that just makes you look stupid.

Sadly Bob thinks that anyone who disagrees with his socialist viewpoints must be a thick reject. Could be the best example of inverse snobbery that I've seen in a while.

 

[briantrumpet]

Sadly Bob thinks that anyone who disagrees with his socialist viewpoints must be a thick reject. Could be the best example of inverse snobbery that I've seen in a while.

 

[Stevo 666]

Badenoch and Farage are furious that Labour have negotiated a better deal with the EU, by giving out the same fishing rights that haven't killed the UK industry but somehow now will, in exchange for fewer border checks for food and people.

The UK has totally given away the right to make a shjt deal.

To me it's the fiddling around the edges that we expected, but there are 2 points that I reckon will count against Starmer electorally:
- The acceptance of 'dynamic alignment' on food etc. Rule taking from Brussels is not a good look.
- No ability to return illegal cross Channel migrants to the safe country that most of them set off from I.e. France.

People may disagree on how important those really are but in terms of public perception when people vote next, they probably will be important.

 

[Stevo 666]

In other good news, the Portuguese socialists were voted out in favour of a centre right party.

 

[Stevo 666]

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I'm a bit thick apparently, so you'll have to explain that one...

When you've finished chewing Bobzmyunkle's orange ball 🙂

 

[First Aspect]

In other good news, the Portuguese socialists were voted out in favour of a centre right party.

That's at least a normal political party rather than some far right nutters or cloud cuckoo populists. So it is actually good news that normal politics has occurred.

 

[First Aspect]

Fishing. 0.03% of UK GDP, and even in Scotland, 0.2%. Why do people care so much and seemingly want to compromise so much to protect the industry?

 

[Stevo 666]

That's at least a normal political party rather than some far right nutters or cloud cuckoo populists. So it is actually good news that normal politics has occurred.

Well quite. And the more this happens in Europe, the more the UK will look out on a limb with Labour 'in charge'.

 

[First Aspect]

To me it's the fiddling around the edges that we expected, but there are 2 points that I reckon will count against Starmer electorally:
- The acceptance of 'dynamic alignment' on food etc. Rule taking from Brussels is not a good look.
- No ability to return illegal cross Channel migrants to the safe country that most of them set off from I.e. France.

People may disagree on how important those really are but in terms of public perception when people vote next, they probably will be important.

Where do you want to send migrants? Country of origin is a good starting point, rather than the country the happened to pass through en route.

Are the people complaining about being tied to EU food standards the same people who were against lowering food standards to do a deal with the US?

Honestly, the debate on these issues is at the level of playschool.

 

[First Aspect]

Well quite. And the more this happens in Europe, the more the UK will look out on a limb with Labour 'in charge'.

Who cares? We've winged for decades about not being able to tell the difference between the centrist parties.

 

[Stevo 666]

Where do you want to send migrants? Country of origin is a good starting point, rather than the country the happened to pass through en route.

Are the people complaining about being tied to EU food standards the same people who were against lowering food standards to do a deal with the US?

Honestly, the debate on these issues is at the level of playschool.

As you can see I'm talking about the optics.

But country of origin is preferred, with France as a backstop. No idea about the people who have issues with EU food standards, but tbh ours seem to be fine.

 

[Stevo 666]

Who cares? We've winged for decades about not being able to tell the difference between the centrist parties.

Have we?

 

[secretsqirrel]

The ‘rule takers’ argument is odd. Let me think, under what circumstances would we be rule makers with the EU 🤔

 

[Stevo 666]

The ‘rule takers’ argument is odd. Let me think, under what circumstances would we be rule makers with the EU 🤔

Missing the point - avoiding being a rule taker as far as possible is the aim...couldn't care less if we don't tell them what to do, as long as they don't tell us what to do.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Missing the point - avoiding being a rule taker as far as possible is the aim...couldn't care less if we don't tell them what to do, as long as they don't tell us what to do.

You missed the point.
We used to be rule makers with the EU until some monumental farkup happened.