BoldonLad
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IMHO, it seldom dawns on lots of people (no matter which "side" they are on), that those they consider to be their "fellow sufferers" may not return the favour.
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IMHO, it seldom dawns on lots of people (no matter which "side" they are on), that those they consider to be their "fellow sufferers" may not return the favour.
midlandsgrimpeur
Regular
Fair comment!
First Aspect
Senior Member
Here is something pertinent to the right to roam discussion we had a while ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9g55pw48o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9g55pw48o
C R
Guru
And that is why we can't have nice things.
Living rurally, country lanes round me are strewn with litter. Most from vans and lorries, polystyrene coffee cups, empty cans of Red Bull, take away burger boxes, etc.
I used to periodically go on litter picking walks and when I had more than I could carry call in at nearest house to ask to put in their bin.
But one Sunday afternoon did a stretch between company dealing with lorries and main road which I happened to cycle next day midday and it was full of litter again.
Few days later I picked up too much and shoulders hurting carrying it and small hamlet and every house refused to let me put it in their bin,
At that point I gave up litter picking walks. People just don't care and trying to do anything about it is futile.
Although rural, a lot of housing round me is not people brought up rurally but people moved to their "rural idyll", they don't even try to understand the countryside, don't even try and do immense damage through that lack on understanding.
Ian
I used to periodically go on litter picking walks and when I had more than I could carry call in at nearest house to ask to put in their bin.
But one Sunday afternoon did a stretch between company dealing with lorries and main road which I happened to cycle next day midday and it was full of litter again.
Few days later I picked up too much and shoulders hurting carrying it and small hamlet and every house refused to let me put it in their bin,
At that point I gave up litter picking walks. People just don't care and trying to do anything about it is futile.
Although rural, a lot of housing round me is not people brought up rurally but people moved to their "rural idyll", they don't even try to understand the countryside, don't even try and do immense damage through that lack on understanding.
Ian
First Aspect
Senior Member
The right to roam issues go beyond littering and fly tipping (another Scottish specialism). It's more analogous to illegal raves.
First Aspect
Senior Member
As I understand it, the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 pretty much codefied long standing custom and a range of common law rights through acquiescence, like like footpaths in England. But the codification has effectively removed the option for landowners to take reasonable objection because it has been so loosely drafted. The outdoor access code is entirely sensible but completely unenforceable.
The rights in England are unreasonably restrictive, but Scotland is a cautionary tale.
Which sre a bit of a farce round ms. Farmers don't like them. Sawn off footpath signs, path through cultivated fields with no marks and you have to wade through trying to follow where you believe the path should be, ploughing and cultivation overgrowing field margin paths.
I've taken to reporting them using the official Council mechanism (web form with "Blocked Public Footpath" category). Get e-mail acknowledgment saying we'll update you on progress and nothing happens, no updates, no action. But report eg phoney speed limit signage through same mechanism and resolved in days with confirming e-mail "A Highways person attended site and resolved the issue".
Ian
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briantrumpet
Veteran
You must live in a dodgy area, with all that litter and badly behaved farmers. Not saying Devon is perfect, but the paths are generally accessible and a delight (and we've got a lot of them), and the rural litter minimal (if you ignore the occasional instances of fly tipping (which do really get my goat).
Ian H
Squire
Most Devonshire folk are far too poor to have stuff to just throw away. Our PROW lot are usefully reactive and the website map is very useful.
Most farms round me are owned by some corporate body that has purchased loads of smaller farms and renting from landowners who inherited land but don't farm like their parents did. The few "farmer farming his land" are good with eg wide strips along several fields allowed to grow wild with massive variety of plant/flower species, etc. marked routes for PROWs, etc. It's the big companies with vast acreages where the only people ever getting to fields are minimum wage manual workers.
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briantrumpet
Veteran
It's a pity that the BBC has become financially illiterate.
