BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[briantrumpet]

"Mob's tiny moron" is an anagram of...?

(Economist cryptic clue)

 

[matticus]

I took to google and asked the question with as much info as I could hazily remember….

What was the pop video with a man in a kilt swinging a hammer in the 1980s?
Within an instant came the reply….

The video you're likely thinking of is for "Over the Sea" by Jesse Rae, a Scottish musician who cultivated a "Highland warrior" persona in the 1980s.

You get to the same song/recording/video without AI (I used Ecosia, just FYI!).

 

[Psamathe]

On this subject you come across as a Luddite. Wikipedia is occasionally wrong, but no one reaches for an encyclopedia any more. Not least because I imagine they contained more errors than Wikipedia.

It's an amazing tool to learn with. If you doubt the information - read its source

Trouble is that there are so many factual errors mixed in with what it presents you have to research pretty well everything independently. And the hallucinations are not only from poor training data but also in the nature of the mathematical processes underlying how LLMs work: (from The Conversation from research from Open AI)

The paper provides the most rigorous mathematical explanation yet for why these models confidently state falsehoods. It demonstrates that these aren’t just an unfortunate side effect of the way that AIs are currently trained, but are mathematically inevitable.
from https://theconversation.com/why-ope...ucinations-would-kill-chatgpt-tomorrow-265107

It so bad I've now disabled AI results/summaries from my Google searches ie none presented at top of search results. Hasn't slowed down my getting information on something, only difference is that the information is right.

 

[Psamathe]

AI's main problem is the quality of the data it is crunching in the first place.
Bullshit in, bullshit out.

It worse and that is only part of the cause of the issues with accuracy/hallucinations. It's not only from poor training data but also in the nature of the mathematical processes underlying how LLMs work: (from The Conversation from research from Open AI)

The paper provides the most rigorous mathematical explanation yet for why these models confidently state falsehoods. It demonstrates that these aren’t just an unfortunate side effect of the way that AIs are currently trained, but are mathematically inevitable.
from https://theconversation.com/why-ope...ucinations-would-kill-chatgpt-tomorrow-265107

 

[secretsqirrel]

You get to the same song/recording/video without AI (I used Ecosia, just FYI!).

Now I have heard of Ecosia as well. Thank you

 

[briantrumpet]

Half good news, half bad, so it lands here.

I think that this kind of problem is what landed us with Brexit (and the US with Trump): a blindness to any positives/progress, fed by a media which sells misery for profit, and amplified by a tendency to want to believe in unicorns and fantasies such as an afterlife in heaven. Human psychology really doesn't like messy compromise.

(On a totally unrelated note, just to wind pedants up, a pointless use of 'fewer' here - well, all uses of 'fewer' are pointless... you'd have understood the sentence perfectly well had it said 'less'.)

 

[briantrumpet]

But this does really belong in the Good News thread

 

[matticus]

I think that this kind of problem is what landed us with Brexit (and the US with Trump): a blindness to any positives/progress, fed by a media which sells misery for profit, and amplified by a tendency to want to believe in unicorns and fantasies such as an afterlife in heaven. Human psychology really doesn't like messy compromise.

See also:
Moaning old gits, saying "They're all as bad as each-other!"

 

[briantrumpet]

See also:
Moaning old gits, saying "They're all as bad as each-other!"

Yep, aka "I can't be bovvered to fink".

And then they'll complain about how everything has gone to shït.

 

[Pblakeney]

But this does really belong in the Good News thread

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Just to be a pedant as details and context are important.
Is that reported or convicted?

 

[matticus]

Just to be a pedant as details and context are important.
Is that reported or convicted?

https://www.statista.com/statistics...CoeBOIA0F3aNwJ_0gwYFRfX9MYlYjwDDQqokiRedwrlD2

 

[Pblakeney]

https://www.statista.com/statistics...CoeBOIA0F3aNwJ_0gwYFRfX9MYlYjwDDQqokiRedwrlD2

Thanks! I can be happy about that now.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

But this does really belong in the Good News thread

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It's almost as if immigrants and asylum seekers haven't ruined the country with their influx of mass criminal behaviour........

 

[PurplePenguin]

But this does really belong in the Good News thread

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Because it is far easier and more profitable to snatch someone's phone or shoplift. Both crimes which have dramatically increased.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Half good news, half bad, so it lands here.

I think that this kind of problem is what landed us with Brexit (and the US with Trump): a blindness to any positives/progress, fed by a media which sells misery for profit, and amplified by a tendency to want to believe in unicorns and fantasies such as an afterlife in heaven. Human psychology really doesn't like messy compromise.

(On a totally unrelated note, just to wind pedants up, a pointless use of 'fewer' here - well, all uses of 'fewer' are pointless... you'd have understood the sentence perfectly well had it said 'less'.)

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Would you intentionally use less in something that is published knowing that the less and fewer brigade will unleash their anger on you? Part of me likes to think that I would stand up for the righteous, liberal speaking, much scorned less team, but the other part of me thinks I would just wimp out and conform to their nonsense.