I think the demographics of that particular seat played a huge role and might not necessarily be a reflectIon of the national vote (except that Labour and the Tories are probably on life support everywhere).
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I think the demographics of that particular seat played a huge role and might not necessarily be a reflectIon of the national vote (except that Labour and the Tories are probably on life support everywhere).
TailWindHome
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Matt BadLoss more like, eh?
Pross
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They’ll probably just go round and round in circles with u-turns trying to appeal to both.
I see what you did there 😁
Dorset Boy
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Has Brian posted on the wrong thread - there's a thread for the Greens, one for reform and one for Labour, any of which are set up for reporting a by-election result, rather than here on the general news thread.
TailWindHome
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BoldonLad
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Were there enough (former) Conservative voters in Gorton & Denton to cause this upset?, did all of the disgruntled (former) Labour voters, vote Green?
C R
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Pblakeney
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That alone should tell Starmer to bat straight down the middle.
First Aspect
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There is a Kimi Raikkonnen meme from the Belgian GP in 2001. He drives in the middle of the track through a cloud of smoke from a crash at about 200 mph without flinching.
His reasoning I seem to recall was that cars were more likely to have crashed on the left and right.
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briantrumpet
Pharaoh
I've no idea if they do post-by-election polling/focus groups to see why people voted the way they did, but my guess is that a lot of the Labour vote was *despite* their Reformy stuff, not because of it (because those people will have voted Reform anyway), but some wavering Labour voters will have voted Green either because (despite the barmier stuff) they aren't making anti-foreigner noises, or they voted tactically as that seemed the most likely way to stop Reform.
tl;dr Starmer ought to drop Mahmood and her enthusiastic Braverman tribute policies... but I'm not sure he's got the clarity of vision or courage to do so. I won't hold my breath.
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Pharaoh
Great news. Tax collectors are happy.
Psamathe
Guru
Gov. Minister on the radio this morning and ... electorate has got it wrong, unions have got it wrong, critical backbenchers have got it wrong ... Starmer has got it right.
Starmer & his cronies gone full Buzz Lightyear "To Oblivion and Beyond". They really seem to be rejecting anything and everything including the decisions of the electorate!
