BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[Pinno718]

I gave your post a like because I recognise what you say, but but but

If a country allows a section of the population to feel left behind, hopeless, defeated you are storing up trouble. Ibelieve we are reaping the results of Britain's rapid deindustrialization, and that the educated middle-class have chosen to ignore the former miners, farm workers , factory workersand their children.

So I think referring to people as stupid or similar is just choosing to ignore their situation and gives ammunition to the cynical likes of Jenrick.

To a degree, I don't disagree with you. A person can be thick and prejudiced but you can still understand how he got there and why he adopts that position. That's key to any opposition to the pov but enormously difficult to reconcile.
I was merely pointing out how it has become much more acceptable to display those underlying prejudices that were always there.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yeah, I'm quite sure that there are plenty of people like your dad who are trying to pull up the drawbridge after them to preserve some mythical past which never existed, but I think there are are also plenty of a similar who are revulsed by Reform. If the voting patterns of Topsham (overall considerably older, more educated, and wealthier than average) are anything to go by, they found neither the Tories nor Reform an attractive proposition at the last election. Though I might be unpleasantly surprised at the local elections, I guess.

I believe a lot of older people are fed up and disillusioned with the woeful quality of politicians and governments we have had during the 21st century and are fooled into thinking that any change will be better than what we have had recently. Mistakes and faults of recent politicians are amplified by a partisan press and silly memes on social media whereas Farage, Polanski are untried as yet and haven't had the opportunity yet to cock up.

 

[briantrumpet]

I believe a lot of older people are fed up and disillusioned with the woeful quality of politicians and governments we have had during the 21st century and are fooled into thinking that any change will be better than what we have had recently. Mistakes and faults of recent politicians are amplified by a partisan press and silly memes on social media whereas Farage, Polanski are untried as yet and haven't had the opportunity yet to cock up.

But, as I've mentioned before, the electorate keeps on rewarding impossible/simplistic manifestos: we demand that they lie to us, reward the lies with our votes, then act all offended when the lies fall apart.

 

[Pinno718]

I believe a lot of older people are fed up and disillusioned with the woeful quality of politicians and governments we have had during the 21st century and are fooled into thinking that any change will be better than what we have had recently. Mistakes and faults of recent politicians are amplified by a partisan press and silly memes on social media whereas Farage, Polanski are untried as yet and haven't had the opportunity yet to cock up.

Reform are cocking up in Reform majority councils but yes, they haven't had the chance and we don't want them to. There would be a 'I told you so' inevitability about it and like Trumpism/Popularity, much damage wreaked.

 

[AuroraSaab]

When people are disillusioned with all the available options they vote for the least worst option or they vote for change. Until politicians regain public confidence - and I don't see any doing this at the moment- this won't change.

 

[Stevo 666]

Meh. It is just a generalisation amplified by the internet. My Dad for example swears he hasn't changed but has gone from Liberal to Reform.

I miss the ongoing study that was Chasey. Started off on BR as a Liberal city slicker and ended up as a commuter belt tory.
He hated being called out on that even more than he hated old people, and what he hated most was it being pointed out that all his woes were down to his personal choices.

Somebody with a Bluesky account needs to go on there, quote this and tell him he needs to sign up here to refute these vile allegations

 

[AndyRM]

This Chasey fella sounds like quite a character...

 

[Shortfall]

, I think your fears are founded. Reform won't really be found out until in power

So like Labour after 14 years in opposition then?

 

[Pblakeney]

So like Labour after 14 years in opposition then?

If you think this is bad then you ain't seen nothing yet.
Use the other side of the pond as a handy reference. We'd currently be at war with Iran for example.