BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[First Aspect]

My guess would be that they are defining 'speed cameras' as ones that are generating fines, and that data is either coming from them once not collecting fines, or that they are collecting speed data by other means to judge the outcome of turning off the fine generation function. It's not surprising that people who are likely to speed are more likely to do so if they know they are unlikely to be caught.

It is interesting the general downwards drift while they certainly were operational... it does suggest that those likely to speed will, over time, adjust their behaviour, if there are penalties.

It will be the army of retirees hanging around the entrance to villages wearing high vis and holding speed guns. They are everywhere.

 

[Dorset Boy]

It will be the army of retirees hanging around the entrance to villages wearing high vis and holding speed guns. They are everywhere.

Speed Stasi - Even in Ontario?
It really pees me off when they point the gun at me when on my bike.
They'd be far better off ensuring the drains aren't blocked and the road signs aren't all overgrown.

I was being somewhat facetious in my early response to Brian's graph.

 

[First Aspect]

Speed Stasi - Even in Ontario?
It really pees me off when they point the gun at me when on my bike.
They'd be far better off ensuring the drains aren't blocked and the road signs aren't all overgrown.

I was being somewhat facetious in my early response to Brian's graph.

Totally. It's also a distraction for motorists and cyclists and there's a thin argument of impersonating the police. Their time would be far better spent arguing about repair and maintenance or memorial benches of something like that.

 

[icowden]

Totally. It's also a distraction for motorists and cyclists and there's a thin argument of impersonating the police.

Causes them to slow down though...

 

[Rusty Nails]

They'd be far better off ensuring the drains aren't blocked and the road signs aren't all overgrown.

Their time would be far better spent arguing about repair and maintenance or memorial benches of something like that.

Moaning old man Bingo! Would have hit the jackpot but no mention of potholes.

 

[Ian H]

Totally. It's also a distraction for motorists and cyclists and there's a thin argument of impersonating the police. Their time would be far better spent arguing about repair and maintenance or memorial benches of something like that.

Any local residents should be empowered to wield speed cameras which actually result in convictions.
I'm all for speed cameras disguised as trees, average speed cameras and the like. Black boxes in vehicles would be ideal.

 

[Psamathe]

Any local residents should be empowered to wield speed cameras which actually result in convictions.
I'm all for speed cameras disguised as trees, average speed cameras and the like. Black boxes in vehicles would be ideal.

I'm uncertain. One village I occasionally drive through it's frequently reported that community speed camera teams will just list their detector pointing skywards when somebody they recognise speeds through (I've seen it happen). Also used to be the case that training and standards are needed to correctly record speed, though uncertain if newer technology has improved.

Certainly the detectors in those flashy signs appearing everywhere are useless. Our local village one has flashed at me "35" when I'm on the bike at the end of a ride and for me, early in ride downhill with a following wind and I'll still max. out at 25 mph so end of ride on level 35 is just madness.

But I do agree that the rules about officers standing in hi-viz in clear view, warning signs, etc. are mad. To me if somebody with a detector hides behind a tree or bus shelter fine - it's the speeding driver doing something wrong and driving within the limits is something drivers should be aleways complying with not just when there's risk of being caught.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Maybe they should make it like F1. If you are caught speeding you get a stop go penalty.

 

[Ian H]

Maybe they should make it like F1. If you are caught speeding you get a stop go penalty.

I didn't know they had speeding penalties in F1.

 

[PurplePenguin]

I didn't know they had speeding penalties in F1.

I may be out of date, but the pit lane has a speed limit.

 

[Psamathe]

Many adspects to speeding but one I have something of a focus on is the repeat offenders who concoct some excuse and don't get banned once they surpuss the points threshold ... repeatedly avoiding a ban.

eg Steve Coogan

Coogan spared lengthy driving ban to film The Trip
Steve Coogan has been given penalty points rather than a driving ban, after telling the judge that a disqualification would impact the filming of his popular TV comedy series The Trip.

The actor and comedian was caught going at 97mph, well over the 70mph speed limit
...
Coogan previously escaped a lengthy driving ban, on another occasion in 2019, after successfully arguing that a new series featuring his much-loved character Alan Partridge could not be filmed on public transport.

I think that were UK to adopt the French VSP system (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35210572) there would be no reason or excuses for an offender not to be banned, they just have to drive a VSP. eg Coogan making a driving comedy show would be far funnier were he to do it in a VSP than some high end performance machine ...

 

[C R]

Many adspects to speeding but one I have something of a focus on is the repeat offenders who concoct some excuse and don't get banned once they surpuss the points threshold ... repeatedly avoiding a ban.

eg Steve Coogan

I think that were UK to adopt the French VSP system (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35210572) there would be no reason or excuses for an offender not to be banned, they just have to drive a VSP. eg Coogan making a driving comedy show would be far funnier were he to do it in a VSP than some high end performance machine ...
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I think the ban system should be even more draconian. A neighbour of my mum's in Spain was banned from driving for six months, not sure of the reason, probably repeat speed offences. He ignored the ban and got caught, the punishment for driving while banned is a permanent ban, he will never get his license back.

 

[icowden]

I think the ban system should be even more draconian. A neighbour of my mum's in Spain was banned from driving for six months, not sure of the reason, probably repeat speed offences. He ignored the ban and got caught, the punishment for driving while banned is a permanent ban, he will never get his license back.

So now he'll just drive without a license. Nothing else to lose.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Often such folk just carry on driving illegally, and without insurance, because they've nothing to lose. I'd rather they had a long ban but with a chance of getting their license back.

IanC beat me to it.

 

[Pblakeney]

So now he'll just drive without a license. Nothing else to lose.

Just a guess, but I'd presume the next step is jail, so something to lose.